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Old 19th April 2015, 04:26 PM #263
Posted by: Jim McDougall EAA Research Consultant Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde I know it is seldom you see an Indian sword here, but this is to show how marks were copied. The gauntlet is made of wootz, and the blade is very flexible, but it is Indian made. (Quote) Outstanding Jens!!! This is a perfect example of how ethnographic arms and European are often inexorably linked, through trade or otherwise acquired blades and the adoption of European stamps, marks, and inscriptions used by native artisans in their interpretations. While many of these markings are trade or guild oriented in Europe, and many are either magical, religious or talismanic in their application there, these were often transmuted into folk religious, talismanic or other symbolism in local native parlances. Better understanding of these markings in their respective cultural spheres often give us perspective on interaction and influences as far as dates, periods etc often help us establish details in identification of ethnographic examples. Thank you so much Jens, good to see this thread again!! All the best, Jim . Last edited by fernando; 20th October 2017 at 04:21 PM. |
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Old 21st April 2015, 08:47 AM #264
Posted by: ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 An intriguing medieval sword in the British Museum of London around 1300. The symbols on the blade are of gold inlay and remain a mystery so far.... (missing attachments) , Last edited by fernando; 21st October 2017 at 06:27 PM. |
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Old 15th May 2015, 02:21 PM #265
Posted by: dana_w Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Southeast Florida, USA Originally Posted by Jim McDougall Thank you for the note on the marking we were discussing Fernando.....the ANCHOR! That would make sense, and the flayed arms on the base does correspond to the shape of anchors in a sense. Since there is a relation to these and merchant marks used often used by traders, it adds to the plausibility of the term. I was incorrect in my comment on this not appearing on blades considered associated with Ayala, in retrospect it seems I do recall seeing something like that on the JESUS MARIA blade I mentioned. The blade had been recovered from a shipwreck in a large grouping of blades that were apparantly being sent to Spain's colonies, and was in pretty rough condition. In close up's I do recall seeing the mark though. (Quote) Jim, this recent article in National Geographic has me looking for the posts where you mention blades from shipwrecks off the coast of Panama. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...an-archaeology/ "The cargo ship went down in 1681 with crates of swords, nails, and bolts of cloth." . Last edited by fernando; 20th October 2017 at 04:23 PM. |
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Old 3rd June 2015, 06:46 PM #266
Posted by: Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Salaams All~ Please accept this web address for information on Signs Ornaments and Inscriptions on Swords please see http://www.academia.edu/496513/Medi..._Aleksi%C 4%87 Simply get onto the page and slide down the right hand side to page 117. Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. Last edited by fernando; 20th October 2017 at 04:24 PM. |
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Old 4th June 2015, 04:12 PM #267
Posted by: ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Salaams Ibrahiim, that is an amazing find and sublime research ! kind regards Ulfberth - Last edited by fernando; 21st October 2017 at 06:28 PM. |
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Old 30th January 2016, 03:49 AM #268
Posted by: Jim McDougall EAA Research Consultant Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 It seems most appropriate to note here that a magnificent book, "European Makers of Edged Weapons, Their Marks" by Staffan Kinman, President of the Swedish Arms and Armour Society, published in 2015 is now available through Ken Trotman arms books in England. This thread has had a magnificent run, and has essentially archived our many discussions on the markings which have been often perplexing and presented ponderous queries. Here in the pages of Mr Kinman's wonderful book are details on many of these compiled with absolutely magnificent research! . Last edited by fernando; 20th October 2017 at 04:26 PM. |
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Old 12th March 2016, 06:45 PM #269
Posted by: joyfulkitten Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Washington State, USA I recently had the opportunity to acquire a sword for my collection. I have been unable to identify the marks on the blade. I was told it was German, but some research also points to Sumarian. I have checked all of the entries in this thread, and some of the other threads as well, but have still come up short. Does anyone have an idea of the origins of these marks? Attached Images . Last edited by fernando; 20th October 2017 at 04:26 PM. |
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