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			My thoughts run pretty much the same way as yours, David. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	But I know at least one very knowledgeable person in Solo who would initially give that as junjung derajad, however if I were to then call it unjung gunung, it would continue to be called ujung gunung during our conversation. So does that mean the Solo person & I would be in agreement? No, not at all. All it would mean is that I'm a wee bit higher up the ladder.  | 
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