My first Nimcha

gp · 21st September 2025, 06:12 PM

Can you be more specific as to “ Italian” does not tell me anything….
That country started after Garibaldi

Were it the Venetians who ruled over the waves and Adria for quite some times or are we talking sword makers from other regions or cities?

TVV · 21st September 2025, 10:55 PM

The very interesting sword from Perast serdar shared with us is Montenegrin under Venetian control. The scabbard is reminiscent of schiavona scabbards.

The hilt is very similar to nimcha hilts and is from approximately the same time as De Ruyter's trophy nimcha and some other nimchas captured by the Spaniards in Oran. It is therefore difficult to tell with an absolute degree of certainty who copied who when it comes to the hilt.

The same hilt style also existed in Southern Arabia, where the Italian maritime republics had no real presence, and the most plausible explanation is an Ottoman connection.

gp · Yesterday, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TVV

The very interesting sword from Perast serdar shared with us is Montenegrin under Venetian control. .

Perast has a most interesting history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perast...20the%20harbor.

and I can recommend a visit. Quite many excellent sea captains came from the village and although not that big, its museum is most interesting
https://muzejikotor.me/en/home/perast-museum/

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21st September 2025, 06:12 PM	#1
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 895	Can you be more specific as to “ Italian” does not tell me anything…. That country started after Garibaldi Were it the Venetians who ruled over the waves and Adria for quite some times or are we talking sword makers from other regions or cities?

21st September 2025, 10:55 PM	#2
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,718	The very interesting sword from Perast serdar shared with us is Montenegrin under Venetian control. The scabbard is reminiscent of schiavona scabbards. The hilt is very similar to nimcha hilts and is from approximately the same time as De Ruyter's trophy nimcha and some other nimchas captured by the Spaniards in Oran. It is therefore difficult to tell with an absolute degree of certainty who copied who when it comes to the hilt. The same hilt style also existed in Southern Arabia, where the Italian maritime republics had no real presence, and the most plausible explanation is an Ottoman connection.