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Old 14th December 2015, 05:24 PM   #1
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Default Russian site, please help identifying

I found these small barrels at a Russian (?) website, but i can not find better pictures. Does anyone have information about these pieces?
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Old 14th December 2015, 05:34 PM   #2
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The images appear to be from this museum.

http://www.saint-petersburg.com/mus...tillery-museum/

Are the two attached images the ones you wanted?
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Old 14th December 2015, 05:41 PM   #3
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Hi Iain,

Thank you for the pictures, but no i ment the two small barrels in post 26 at the forum i posted the link of.
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Old 14th December 2015, 05:48 PM   #4
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Here you go.
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Old 14th December 2015, 05:49 PM   #5
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Old 14th December 2015, 06:03 PM   #6
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Perfect thank you
Very nice pieces, i will save them in my database.

While we are at it, you might also be familiar with these three haquebuts at the Museum of Varna, Bulgaria? I would love to have more pictures and measurements of them.
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Old 14th December 2015, 06:08 PM   #7
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Hi Marcus,

I have to admit I am absolutely no expert in early firearms! I just am not bad with Russian (well some small translations) and computers and figured I could help.

I can look if the same guy on that Russian forum was in that museum also and took more pictures. I saw already he had an image from a Serbian museum with similar guns.

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Old 14th December 2015, 06:25 PM   #8
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Hi Iain,

If you would do that for it would be amazing, i am trying to figure out the exact proportions of these type of haquebut.
At this thread are the original pictures of the guns
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showt...hemian+haquebut

Thank you for looking, my Russian is limited to two or three words so :P
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If you would do that for it would be amazing, i am trying to figure out the exact proportions of these type of haquebut.
At this thread are the original pictures of the guns
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showt...hemian+haquebut

Thank you for looking, my Russian is limited to two or three words so :P


Hi Marcus,

I'll do my best, but I'm afraid it is a pretty obscure topic and while I can manage to read enough to get some images finding dimensions I think will depend if there is any published work on these examples in Bulgaria. I have access to a few academic resources and will see what I can find.
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Hello Ian
I would also be interested in more details of this pieces. Thanks in advance for your efforts.
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Old 14th December 2015, 07:37 PM   #11
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I would also be interested in more details of this pieces. Thanks in advance for your efforts.


A quick search did not produce any results. But I have tried emailing a few contacts I found for the museum, I have some doubts I will get a reply but it is worth a chance....
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Old 16th December 2015, 09:18 AM   #12
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Some progress! No dimensions yet I'm afraid but I've been in contact with the Varna museum.

The guns in question actually appear to be at the following museum. http://www.varnenchikmuseum.com/Eng

I was given contact information for this museum and have written them. So hopefully I'll have a result for you soon!
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Old 16th December 2015, 10:57 AM   #13
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Great work Iain thank you so much. Looking forward to the update.
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Old 16th December 2015, 11:51 AM   #14
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Here you go.

1. Length 58 centimetre, muzzle 3, 5 c., weight - 2 kg.
2. Length 60 c., muzzle - 4 c., weight - 2 kg.
3. Length 73 c., muzzle 10 c., weight - 2 kg.
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Old 16th December 2015, 12:07 PM   #15
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Perfect, that is exactly what i wanted to know. Though i am suprised by the weight of the pieces beeing so light.. the measurements are the really interesting part.
Did they also include pictures by any chance?
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Old 16th December 2015, 12:08 PM   #16
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No pictures, I can ask for few more if you want. They are speaking English and seem very helpful! Perhaps it will be easiest if you PM me your email address and I will send you the contact I have now at the museum.
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