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Marcus den toom 14th December 2015 05:24 PM

Russian site, please help identifying
 
I found these small barrels at a Russian (?) website, but i can not find better pictures. Does anyone have information about these pieces?
Post 26:
http://www.tforum.info/forum/index....BA%D0%B0&page=2

Iain 14th December 2015 05:34 PM

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The images appear to be from this museum.

http://www.saint-petersburg.com/mus...tillery-museum/

Are the two attached images the ones you wanted?

Marcus den toom 14th December 2015 05:41 PM

Hi Iain,

Thank you for the pictures, but no i ment the two small barrels in post 26 at the forum i posted the link of.

Iain 14th December 2015 05:48 PM

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Here you go.

Iain 14th December 2015 05:49 PM

Links to larger versions.

http://www.tforum.info/forum/index....2786&size=large

http://www.tforum.info/forum/index....2785&size=large

Marcus den toom 14th December 2015 06:03 PM

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Perfect thank you :D
Very nice pieces, i will save them in my database.

While we are at it, you might also be familiar with these three haquebuts at the Museum of Varna, Bulgaria? I would love to have more pictures and measurements of them.

Iain 14th December 2015 06:08 PM

Hi Marcus,

I have to admit I am absolutely no expert in early firearms! I just am not bad with Russian (well some small translations) and computers and figured I could help. :D

I can look if the same guy on that Russian forum was in that museum also and took more pictures. I saw already he had an image from a Serbian museum with similar guns.

Marcus den toom 14th December 2015 06:25 PM

Hi Iain,

If you would do that for it would be amazing, i am trying to figure out the exact proportions of these type of haquebut.
At this thread are the original pictures of the guns
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showt...hemian+haquebut

Thank you for looking, my Russian is limited to two or three words so :P

Iain 14th December 2015 07:05 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus den toom
Hi Iain,

If you would do that for it would be amazing, i am trying to figure out the exact proportions of these type of haquebut.
At this thread are the original pictures of the guns
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showt...hemian+haquebut

Thank you for looking, my Russian is limited to two or three words so :P


Hi Marcus,

I'll do my best, but I'm afraid it is a pretty obscure topic and while I can manage to read enough to get some images finding dimensions I think will depend if there is any published work on these examples in Bulgaria. I have access to a few academic resources and will see what I can find.

Andi 14th December 2015 07:20 PM

Hello Ian
I would also be interested in more details of this pieces. Thanks in advance for your efforts.

Iain 14th December 2015 07:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andi
Hello Ian
I would also be interested in more details of this pieces. Thanks in advance for your efforts.


A quick search did not produce any results. But I have tried emailing a few contacts I found for the museum, I have some doubts I will get a reply but it is worth a chance....

Iain 16th December 2015 09:18 AM

Some progress! No dimensions yet I'm afraid but I've been in contact with the Varna museum.

The guns in question actually appear to be at the following museum. http://www.varnenchikmuseum.com/Eng

I was given contact information for this museum and have written them. So hopefully I'll have a result for you soon!

Marcus den toom 16th December 2015 10:57 AM

Great work Iain :D thank you so much. Looking forward to the update.

Iain 16th December 2015 11:51 AM

Here you go. :D

1. Length 58 centimetre, muzzle 3, 5 c., weight - 2 kg.
2. Length 60 c., muzzle - 4 c., weight - 2 kg.
3. Length 73 c., muzzle 10 c., weight - 2 kg.

Marcus den toom 16th December 2015 12:07 PM

Perfect, that is exactly what i wanted to know. Though i am suprised by the weight of the pieces beeing so light.. the measurements are the really interesting part.
Did they also include pictures by any chance? :o :D

Iain 16th December 2015 12:08 PM

No pictures, I can ask for few more if you want. They are speaking English and seem very helpful! Perhaps it will be easiest if you PM me your email address and I will send you the contact I have now at the museum.


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