hilt material ?

David · 19th December 2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Ok, but which animal / define marine ivory ?
There are quite a lot of sea mamals that can provise teeth that are workable :
Sperm whale ? orca/killerwhale ? seacow/dujong ? Walrus ? Narwal ?

Well Willem, you are certainly getting beyond my ability to differentiate.

danny1976 · 19th December 2009, 10:50 PM

Gentleman its getting a intrseting discusion.

I hope that we can figure it out what kind of animal did use this teeth to eat
before it did became a keris hilt .?

And also i.m realy curious how old it could be.

asomotif · 19th December 2009, 11:11 PM

There have been several threads where ID-ing ivory was discussed.

A recent one with info / links and examples was this one.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...identification

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Well Willem, you are certainly getting beyond my ability to differentiate.

Hello David, at this moment I am also just able to ask the questions, and not yet to answer them

Rick · 19th December 2009, 11:33 PM

I'm still thinking Potvis as you suggested, Henk err, Willem .

I'd be very interested in seeing an example of a bone hilt that looks anything like this .

Lack of dots would negate Hippo as the source .
Very nice patina and wear on this jejeran.

I love the Sun face .

asomotif · 19th December 2009, 11:39 PM

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At the first view I thought as asomotif that it could be spermwhale ivory but now I think it is not as I am missing the bull's eye.

Hello Guwaya,
Do you have examples of this bull eye effect ?

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I'm still thinking Potvis as you suggested, Henk .

Suppose you meant me ?

Best regards,
Willem

Rick · 19th December 2009, 11:50 PM

Sorry Willem .

guwaya · 20th December 2009, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Hello Guwaya,
Do you have examples of this bull eye effect ?

Suppose you meant me ?

Best regards,
Willem

Do you have examples of this bull eye effect ?

Sorry - but I don't have.
Guwaya

sirek · 20th December 2009, 01:52 PM

Hello Danny, maybe this is interesting for you,

in a Dutch-forum it's said:

that the image suggest: the sun of Solo.

The (royal) Madurese wanted to show that their family was related to the Sunan, (See the arms of the Sunan: there are sunbeams in processed)

(hope I have translated well)

to see the original topic with picture:

http://www.dekris.nl/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=65

19th December 2009, 11:33 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	I'm still thinking Potvis as you suggested, Henk err, Willem . I'd be very interested in seeing an example of a bone hilt that looks anything like this . Lack of dots would negate Hippo as the source . Very nice patina and wear on this jejeran. I love the Sun face . Last edited by Rick; 20th December 2009 at 06:09 PM.

19th December 2009, 10:50 PM	#2
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Gentleman its getting a intrseting discusion. I hope that we can figure it out what kind of animal did use this teeth to eat before it did became a keris hilt .? And also i.m realy curious how old it could be.

19th December 2009, 11:50 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Sorry Willem .

20th December 2009, 01:52 PM	#8
sirek Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 171	Hello Danny, maybe this is interesting for you, in a Dutch-forum it's said: that the image suggest: the sun of Solo. The (royal) Madurese wanted to show that their family was related to the Sunan, (See the arms of the Sunan: there are sunbeams in processed) (hope I have translated well) to see the original topic with picture: http://www.dekris.nl/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=65