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19th December 2009, 11:36 AM
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Hi Guwaya ,
Here a extra photo, Danny |
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19th December 2009, 12:06 PM
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Ivory ?
Hi Danny,
Are you sure it is Ivory ? Have you made the traditional hot needle test? The lack of sharpness in the details make me think it could be molded. I may be totally wrong and in that case I apologize for such an iconoclastic view of your hilt. Regards Michel |
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19th December 2009, 12:15 PM
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Hi Michel,
No need to apologize, Indeed i did make the test and al that happens is a red hot needle that wil bend when i push i against the hilt. So no plastic or someting like it. |
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19th December 2009, 02:10 PM
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Hi Danny, Thank you for the extra photo. At the first view I thought as asomotif that it could be spermwhale ivory but now I think it is not as I am missing the bull's eye. I have no idea at the moment - sorry. Guwaya |
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19th December 2009, 04:40 PM
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Danny, I think it looks like Marine Ivory .
Note the interesting 'swirls' near the base in your first and second pictures I would not stake my life on it though !! 
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19th December 2009, 06:49 PM
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Also i think it's marine ivory
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19th December 2009, 08:10 PM
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Hi Danny,
Sure its marine ivory, most of madura ukiran are and it shows clouds so its marine. This one is from before 1825. Got it from Peter? Regards Michel, amsterdam |
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19th December 2009, 08:45 PM
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19th December 2009, 09:44 PM
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hallo
danny nice hilt ,but no ivory what is nice to i have allmost the same hilt on a keris given to me in indonesia in 1970 simlar but not the same ,mine one is bone greet jan 
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19th December 2009, 10:09 PM
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Hi Michel,
Yes it,s from peter. But pleas explain why you think its from before 1825 ? And has some one a hilt with the same figure ? I do only know the ones with the horse , crown , epaulets etc... Danny |
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At first Happy new year to all, hope it wilo be a good and healty yeah for all and their family and loved ones. My opinion of this hilt being older than 1825 is because of that there are no indicators of the dutch. No epaulets, dutch knight ord or flying horse. 1825 is the year of start of Jawa war. Lot of soldiers that fought in this war on jawa were Dutch, but since the dutch needed more lot of Madura soldiers helped the dutch in this war. afther this date, madura hilt got dutch indicators. Regards Michel |
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