Sumatran / Bugis ID

David · 27th October 2009, 02:20 PM

These two things are not exclusive. It is possible to have a Bugis blade that is also Sumatran.

I can certainly see the Bugis influence in this blade. Beautiful hilt as well. What does the sheath look like?

BluErf · 27th October 2009, 04:45 PM

hmmm... the blade form looks familiar...

Sajen · 27th October 2009, 05:09 PM

Can be from both origin.

Moshah · 28th October 2009, 01:31 AM

David, purposely I didn't attached the sheath because it suggests bona-fide Bugis..

However, sheath can be deceiving, I never relied on them alone..

Kai Wee, which form is familiar to u? Mind sharing it here?

BTW, could it be Palembang?

Sajen · 28th October 2009, 01:53 AM

Bugis Riau?

Which material is the handle?

sajen

Moshah · 28th October 2009, 02:33 AM

Hi Sajen,

The hilt is sea ivory, I've been told. Looks like a Palembang hilt, wasn't it?

I don't know very much about Bugis keris, didn't see very much good example as well, but I feel that this piece was no Bugis.

Was the sogokan is familiar to bugis keris?

BTW, the hilt, close-up:

David · 28th October 2009, 03:41 AM

Wow, the hilt is really sweet!
Moshah, the Bugis were all over the area. They had settlements everywhere. There were Bugis in Sumatra as well as many other areas. The Bugis were a seafaring peole. They got around. But the sheath looks Sulawesi to me.

28th October 2009, 01:31 AM	#4
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	David, purposely I didn't attached the sheath because it suggests bona-fide Bugis.. However, sheath can be deceiving, I never relied on them alone.. Kai Wee, which form is familiar to u? Mind sharing it here? BTW, could it be Palembang? Attached Images

28th October 2009, 02:33 AM	#6
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	Hi Sajen, The hilt is sea ivory, I've been told. Looks like a Palembang hilt, wasn't it? I don't know very much about Bugis keris, didn't see very much good example as well, but I feel that this piece was no Bugis. Was the sogokan is familiar to bugis keris? BTW, the hilt, close-up: Attached Images

27th October 2009, 02:20 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,230	These two things are not exclusive. It is possible to have a Bugis blade that is also Sumatran. I can certainly see the Bugis influence in this blade. Beautiful hilt as well. What does the sheath look like?

27th October 2009, 04:45 PM	#2
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	hmmm... the blade form looks familiar...

27th October 2009, 05:09 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,277	Can be from both origin.

28th October 2009, 01:53 AM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,277	Bugis Riau? Which material is the handle? sajen

28th October 2009, 03:41 AM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,230	Wow, the hilt is really sweet! Moshah, the Bugis were all over the area. They had settlements everywhere. There were Bugis in Sumatra as well as many other areas. The Bugis were a seafaring peole. They got around. But the sheath looks Sulawesi to me.