Timor sword?

Sajen · 14th May 2009, 05:52 PM

Hello dear members,
just win this sword by e-bay. When I follow Albert van Zonneveld this is a sword of the Timor group type c. An example is to seen in his book on page 138. Here the pics from the seller. It is 77 cm complete (?). What do you think?
All comments are welcome, thank's in advance,
sajen

asomotif · 14th May 2009, 11:54 PM

The blade is from a dutch klewang.

Their might be markings at the ricasso : hembrug or milsco.
But could also be unmarked

Check out the various threads on the "dutch klewang"

Further, the handle, yes typical timor.
The use of a foreign blade , typical timor.

Sajen · 15th May 2009, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asomotif

The blade is from a dutch klewang.

Their might be markings at the ricasso : hembrug or milsco.
But could also be unmarked

Check out the various threads on the "dutch klewang"

Further, the handle, yes typical timor.
The use of a foreign blade , typical timor.

Thank's Willem, great help. I have thought that it is a european blade but don't think that it is from a dutch klewang. Is the value more high when there is a marking?
sajen

asomotif · 15th May 2009, 06:59 AM

Hello Detlef,

In this case I don't think the marking will mean anything to the value, as it is an ethnographic weapon now.

It would be funny if it was marked "VINCE" because militairy Klewangs of that making are rare, but MILSCO and HEMBRUG are quite common.
There are also Klewangs around without any markings and although they are not very common, militairy collectors do not value them much.

Anyway, it is a timor sword now

Sajen · 15th May 2009, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asomotif

Hello Detlef,

In this case I don't think the marking will mean anything to the value, as it is an ethnographic weapon now.

It would be funny if it was marked "VINCE" because militairy Klewangs of that making are rare, but MILSCO and HEMBRUG are quite common.
There are also Klewangs around without any markings and although they are not very common, militairy collectors do not value them much.

Anyway, it is a timor sword now

Hi Willem,
thank's for comment and I will inform you when I will find a marking at the blade when it arrived.
Detlef

Sajen · 28th January 2012, 03:14 PM

Just reread this old thread. The marking HEMBRUG was found by cleaning the blade.

Henk · 29th January 2012, 10:04 AM

Then this is a Dutch blade. Nice piece. Congrats!

asomotif · 29th January 2012, 11:15 PM

Yes, still a nice piece

Sajen · 30th January 2012, 04:06 PM

Thank you Henk and Willem!

Regards,

Detlef

14th May 2009, 05:52 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Timor sword? Hello dear members, just win this sword by e-bay. When I follow Albert van Zonneveld this is a sword of the Timor group type c. An example is to seen in his book on page 138. Here the pics from the seller. It is 77 cm complete (?). What do you think? All comments are welcome, thank's in advance, sajen Attached Images

28th January 2012, 03:14 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Just reread this old thread. The marking HEMBRUG was found by cleaning the blade. Attached Images

14th May 2009, 11:54 PM	#2
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	The blade is from a dutch klewang. Their might be markings at the ricasso : hembrug or milsco. But could also be unmarked Check out the various threads on the "dutch klewang" Further, the handle, yes typical timor. The use of a foreign blade , typical timor.

15th May 2009, 06:59 AM	#4
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	Hello Detlef, In this case I don't think the marking will mean anything to the value, as it is an ethnographic weapon now. It would be funny if it was marked "VINCE" because militairy Klewangs of that making are rare, but MILSCO and HEMBRUG are quite common. There are also Klewangs around without any markings and although they are not very common, militairy collectors do not value them much. Anyway, it is a timor sword now

29th January 2012, 10:04 AM	#7
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Then this is a Dutch blade. Nice piece. Congrats!

29th January 2012, 11:15 PM	#8
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	Yes, still a nice piece

30th January 2012, 04:06 PM	#9
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Thank you Henk and Willem! Regards, Detlef