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6th December 2006, 07:54 PM
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Hi Michael thanks I just order the book ( I did have it in my collection but someone did not give it back to me)
but I am looking for a book that tells what it means if the is one 2 or 3 golden crowns on the weapon maybe you now a special book about this subject You are the book search expert if some one can find it it will be you. Ben |
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6th December 2006, 08:28 PM
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Probably the amount of golden crowns only shows how rich the owner was?
Maybe you could find something in this article: De Sikin by P. Vermieren from De Vrienden van het Etnografisch Museum Antwerpen, XIV(2), 2 (1987). Haven't found it yet myself. But you are closer to Antwerpen than I am. Please arrange a copy for me too. Michael |
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7th December 2006, 07:30 PM
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Hi Michael I did send them an email
Thanks Ben |
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7th December 2006, 09:48 PM
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I am out of town so I do not have my copy of Barbara Leigh's book but I remember it did talk about the shape on these devices near the handle I will try to look it up friday night when I get home
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8th December 2006, 10:00 PM
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OK In "Hands of Time" they call the v shaped design at the hilt of the panjang and the rencongPucuk Rebung it is supposed to represent the sprouting bamboo. the figure at teh end of the hule mea apet is called duan tebu I need to get a good translation on that term. They describe it as representing the sprouting sugar cane.
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9th December 2006, 12:44 PM
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Hi RhysMichael I like to know when they use when they use normal crows double crowns and who allowed to carry it
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9th December 2006, 04:13 PM
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I've never read anything on that. The crowns are the "Pucuk Rebung" and appear to be a vegatative motif. Maybe Utami would be able to tell you he is in Indonesia and has a good bit of information on Aceh swords. There is some reference in the small amount of reference material I have also about a star shaped decoration on the hilts called a tampok that is taken from the star shaped decorations on the top of the traditional royal Achenese hat that my help you with what you are looking for. I wish I knew more to offer you I will keep looking. I have found little more in Barbara Leigh's book and nothing more in Holly Smith's book. John |
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