Chronological listing of Polish-Lithuanian and Hungarian sabers

awdaniec666 · 21st March 2023, 07:54 PM

This is interesting and thanks for posting those links.
It seems to me that the concept of the Hegyestőr in Hungary and it´s specifications differs depending on which time period one is looking at. In Polish literature Koncerz means basically the over-long Estoc with Hungarian hilt from the 17th century onwards. Going through the information provided by you - and this makes sense since this weapon interpretation came from Hungary most possibly - discussed weapon (here the hegyestőr) design has in fact been shorter and carried by the belt.

"A hegyestőrök a 15. században jelentek meg, Stiborici Stibor a sírkövén jobb oldalára fölkötött hegyestőrt visel."

(Hegyestőr appeared in the 15th century, Stibor Stiborici wears a Hegyestőr tied to the right side of his tombstone.)

"A katonák nem a derekukra kötötték, hanem a nyereg jobb oldalára
erősítették."

(The soldiers did not tie it around their waists, but attached it to the right side of the saddle.)

Source:
https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegyest%C5%91r

21st March 2023, 07:54 PM	#11
awdaniec666 Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: Central Europe Posts: 174	This is interesting and thanks for posting those links. It seems to me that the concept of the Hegyestőr in Hungary and it´s specifications differs depending on which time period one is looking at. In Polish literature *Koncerz* means basically the over-long *Estoc with Hungarian hilt* from the 17th century onwards. Going through the information provided by you - and this makes sense since this weapon interpretation came from Hungary most possibly - discussed weapon (here the *hegyestőr) design has in fact been shorter and carried by the belt. "A hegyestőrök a 15. században jelentek meg, Stiborici Stibor a sírkövén jobb oldalára fölkötött hegyestőrt visel."* (Hegyestőr appeared in the 15th century, Stibor Stiborici wears a Hegyestőr tied to the right side of his tombstone.) "A katonák nem a derekukra kötötték, hanem a nyereg jobb oldalára erősítették." (The soldiers did not tie it around their waists, but attached it to the right side of the saddle.) Source: https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegyest%C5%91r