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Interesting that yours is ~10% lighter than either of mine while presumably having a more substantial grip.
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As noted by Gav in his post #2, this interesting yellow backed tortoise shell type dress does seem to be diplomatically oriented and the convention situated in about mid 19th c.
This example of similar dress uses a much earlier blade with Manchu characters stamped into the willow leaf style blade. |
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As noted by Gav in his post #2, this interesting yellow backed tortoise shell type dress does seem to be diplomatically oriented and the convention situated in about mid 19th c.
This example of similar dress uses a much earlier blade with Manchu characters stamped into the willow leaf style blade. |
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Yellow was the Imperial colour.
I read somewhere that a lot of these were made for the armouries if fortified villages and towns for issue to civilians when needed. Mine looks a bit less classy. Has the heavenly 7 stars brass insets on the blade tho. Last edited by kronckew; 9th March 2023 at 06:51 PM. |
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I remember seeing some old village armoury jian and they were forged all iron and steel blade, guard and pommel with laminated blades. Then I found the original site, here. https://forum.grtc.org/search.php?keywords=village+jian
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Not many photos on that site, Dave.
Could they possibly have been produced for the Boxers late 19/early 20c? They wouldn't have the time to learn the finesse that he longer imperial Jians required. |
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The problem with a lot of the sites I used to trawl is that they have changed format, don't link in the same way as they did, or even disappeared from the 'net! Aha, this is a better link. https://forum.grtc.org/viewforum.php?f=15 To be honest, I am always wary about linking to other sites, I fear to trespass. |
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Your example is a touristic item made in Taiwan, during the Vietnam War era. I saw some in a shop in Waikiki, of all places, with tiny paper labels "made in Taiwan" on them. They also had Thai dhas with aluminum ferrules and guards which were also brought back as souvenirs by GIs on R&R in Thailand. On these jian-like objects, the rustic wood carving is something I suppose is a simplistic and not-very-realistic interpretation of Taiwan aboriginal craft work because you don't find this sort of timber or style of deco on the scabbards of real antique jian. |
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