My Jian for interest

[kronckew]

Not many photos on that site, Dave.


Could they possibly have been produced for the Boxers late 19/early 20c? They wouldn't have the time to learn the finesse that he longer imperial Jians required.

[David R]

Originally Posted by kronckew

Not many photos on that site, Dave.


Could they possibly have been produced for the Boxers late 19/early 20c? They wouldn't have the time to learn the finesse that he longer imperial Jians required.

Boxers tended to carry and use the Oxtail Dao rather than a Jian...
The problem with a lot of the sites I used to trawl is that they have changed format, don't link in the same way as they did, or even disappeared from the 'net!

Aha, this is a better link. https://forum.grtc.org/viewforum.php?f=15 To be honest, I am always wary about linking to other sites, I fear to trespass.

[Gavin Nugent]

Originally Posted by David R

Boxers tended to carry and use the Oxtail Dao rather than a Jian...
The problem with a lot of the sites I used to trawl is that they have changed format, don't link in the same way as they did, or even disappeared from the 'net!

Aha, this is a better link. https://forum.grtc.org/viewforum.php?f=15 To be honest, I am always wary about linking to other sites, I fear to trespass.

If I recall, fom historical images, the masses typically just carried crude clubs with fewer having cold steel at hand.

[David R]

Originally Posted by Gavin Nugent

If I recall, fom historical images, the masses typically just carried crude clubs with fewer having cold steel at hand.

Boxers, aka "Society of the Harmonious Fist" were members of a nationalist martial arts group, you are thinking of urban rioters. A lot to unpack in that era, and don't go by Western propaganda.

[Gavin Nugent]

Originally Posted by David R

Boxers, aka "Society of the Harmonious Fist" were members of a nationalist martial arts group, you are thinking of urban rioters. A lot to unpack in that era, and don't go by Western propaganda.

Absolutely.

I made the comment based on this historical photo.
https://www.thoughtco.com/chinas-box...-photos-195618

The book which the image is on the cover
https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520...boxer-uprising
It offers a very detailed history of the forces behind the scenes within various secret societies, how they developed and what ultimately played out...

[David R]

I think we are in danger of serious digression from the main subject of Jian here, but here is a link to a very informed discussion, and a photo of a "Boxer" with his Oxtail Dao.... and there I will leave it.

https://chinesemartialstudies.com/?s=boxer+rebellion