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Old 6th November 2019, 08:27 AM   #1
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I think now that we have figured out the "unique sword", we can return to the main topic of discussion.
Given that for such swords as Pata, the blade is fixed with rivets, this mount is probably quite strong.
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Old 6th November 2019, 10:23 AM   #2
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Quote - I think now that we have figured out the "unique sword", we can return to the main topic of discussion. - end of quote.


Sorry Mahratt, but I think you losst the overview, as the main topic is not rivets, but Cut steel decorations on Indian arms.
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Old 6th November 2019, 11:29 AM   #3
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Sorry Mahratt, but I think you losst the overview, as the main topic is not rivets, but Cut steel decorations on Indian arms.
Yes, Jens, you are absolutely right. Forgive me for my inattention. It’s just that the topic has gone a little from the main direction. But I think that Pata, which I showed in the subject, is also suitable for discussing steel jewelry on Indian weapons. Here, the steel decorations on top are decorated with gold.

Well, another example of steel jewelry. By the way, I will be very grateful if you express your opinion on the dating of this Katar
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Old 6th November 2019, 07:54 PM   #4
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Well, another example of steel jewelry. By the way, I will be very grateful if you express your opinion on the dating of this Katar
Beautiful Katar, but more detailed photos would be welcomed.

My guess is that the blade is one piece with the "bolster", then the arm guards and the transverse grip are forge welded to form one single piece.

Many of these Katars were made for the foreigner collectors around 1900, and yours may be one of them.

I have seen earlier examples in wootz, but it does not appear to be the case of this one... or is it?
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Old 6th November 2019, 09:15 PM   #5
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Beautiful Katar, but more detailed photos would be welcomed.

My guess is that the blade is one piece with the "bolster", then the arm guards and the transverse grip are forge welded to form one single piece.

Many of these Katars were made for the foreigner collectors around 1900, and yours may be one of them.

I have seen earlier examples in wootz, but it does not appear to be the case of this one... or is it?
It is quite possible this is 1900. I'm not sure about the dating. Therefore, I ask the views of the forum participants.
I will try to make better photos at the weekend.
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Old 7th November 2019, 04:10 PM   #6
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Yes better pictures would be nice.
How big is the katar?
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Old 8th November 2019, 02:08 AM   #7
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Jens,
I appreciate and respect your wish to concentrate on decorative elements of Indian weapons, but just want to show 2 South Indian swords of interest. Seems to me, that spear-like construction and fortified tip were indeed encountered in South India.
That would be my last deviation from your request. Sorry for disrupting the flow of information.
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Old 8th November 2019, 03:49 AM   #8
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Yes better pictures would be nice.
How big is the katar?
Total length 19 inches, blade 10 inches long and 2 inches wide
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Old 8th November 2019, 11:23 AM   #9
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Yes better pictures would be nice.
How big is the katar?
Can we see the transversal bars pleeease?
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