TURKISH kindjal

Kubur · 2nd October 2016, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

Here is mine. Circassian style of decoration.

Thank you Ariel!
I have a problem if the decoration is Caucasian, and maybe the blade.
What makes your kindjal Turkish? I know that you are very sharp for Caucasian affairs so i'm sure that you have good reasons but for a little head like me it's not obvious...
Best,
Kubur

stelio · 29th May 2017, 12:31 PM

Ottoman big kindjal or kama
Late 18th century early 19th century. His rhinoceros handle with golden patterns and writing on his blade.

Martin Lubojacky · 29th May 2017, 01:45 PM

Hi Stelio, what is the total length og this kinjal ? I gues no rivets/studs in the handle ....

stelio · 29th May 2017, 02:17 PM

Hello Martin!
The total length is 67 cm to 50 cm the length of the blade.It has two studs/rivets in the top of the handle( look photo) and there is some kind of glue inside.I think it's a mix of resin along with other materials.

Stelios

TVV · 29th May 2017, 06:13 PM

Here is a much more mundane example, which I believe is purely Turkish.

Teodor

Martin Lubojacky · 30th May 2017, 12:36 PM

Thanks Stelio. I asked, because till now I saw this kind of Ottoman (and I would say from Anatolian territory ?) rhino hilt (exactly the same shape - I mean especiall the upper part) without any rivets. In one case there were rivets, but attached only from decorative reason (it did not go through the steel tongue ; BTW - the steel tongue inside the hilt used to go to cca mid length of the hilt in these concrete cases). It may be that in your case the rivets were "supplemented" additionaly to reinforce the old dagger)

Also, very often it these cases, the blade used to taper immediately from the hilt (like very long triangle), which is not common in another qama styles.

estcrh · 23rd July 2017, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kubur

Thank you Ariel!
I have a problem if the decoration is Caucasian, and maybe the blade.
What makes your kindjal Turkish?

I also wonder what makes Ariels kindjal Ottoman.

29th May 2017, 12:31 PM	#2
stelio Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 97	ottoman qama / kama Ottoman big kindjal or kama Late 18th century early 19th century. His rhinoceros handle with golden patterns and writing on his blade. Attached Images

29th May 2017, 02:17 PM	#4
stelio Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 97	Hello Martin! The total length is 67 cm to 50 cm the length of the blade.It has two studs/rivets in the top of the handle( look photo) and there is some kind of glue inside.I think it's a mix of resin along with other materials. Stelios Attached Images

29th May 2017, 06:13 PM	#5
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,660	Here is a much more mundane example, which I believe is purely Turkish. Teodor Attached Images

29th May 2017, 01:45 PM	#3
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 843	Hi Stelio, what is the total length og this kinjal ? I gues no rivets/studs in the handle ....

30th May 2017, 12:36 PM	#6
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 843	Thanks Stelio. I asked, because till now I saw this kind of Ottoman (and I would say from Anatolian territory ?) rhino hilt (exactly the same shape - I mean especiall the upper part) without any rivets. In one case there were rivets, but attached only from decorative reason (it did not go through the steel tongue ; BTW - the steel tongue inside the hilt used to go to cca mid length of the hilt in these concrete cases). It may be that in your case the rivets were "supplemented" additionaly to reinforce the old dagger) Also, very often it these cases, the blade used to taper immediately from the hilt (like very long triangle), which is not common in another qama styles.