Old Luzon Kris

Ian · 31st May 2015, 01:27 PM

In going back over some old threads, I found this one on Luzon kris--which represent one form of Spanish colonial sword that has received little attention. While flambé blades have been well recognized among European swords, the "Luzon kris" seems more directly related to the Moro kris than a European ancestor.

Here is an example from the History of Steel exhibition held several years ago in Macao. OAL = 31.25 inches (79.4 cm)

Ian.

Battara · 31st May 2015, 05:52 PM

"Your are correct, sir!" There were contacts with and I think even a colony of Moros in Ilokos where most of these come from in the north.

Ian · 1st June 2015, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

"Your are correct, sir!" There were contacts with and I think even a colony of Moros in Ilokos where most of these come from in the north.

Thanks Jose. Interesting factoid. Did not know about Moros in Luzon during the 19th-20th C.

Ian.

Battara · 1st June 2015, 01:54 AM

Well by that time the Spanish had already kicked the Moros out, but some influence remained, like this type of wavy blade.

Robert · 1st June 2015, 04:39 AM

Hello Ian, I happy to see this thread brought back into the light of day again. If I remember correctly the sword you posted is not only one of the best examples of this style that I have ever seen, but is also unusual in the way the blade was sharpened. If memory serves me correctly this piece is quite unique in that the blade is single edged with only the lower edge being sharpened. All of the other examples that I have in my personal collection (swords and daggers) as well as all the others I have ever seen photos of or personally handled have always had both edges of their blades sharpened. I have alway regretted not having the funds to purchase this with for my own collection the one time that it was being offered for sale.

Jose, Thank you very much for the new information concerning a colony of Moros living in Ilocos. Being that this is something I have never heard of until now do you by chance have any other information on where exactly they were located or possibly the time frame of when they lived there?

Best,
Robert

31st May 2015, 01:27 PM	#1
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	In going back over some old threads, I found this one on Luzon kris--which represent one form of Spanish colonial sword that has received little attention. While flambé blades have been well recognized among European swords, the "Luzon kris" seems more directly related to the Moro kris than a European ancestor. Here is an example from the History of Steel exhibition held several years ago in Macao. OAL = 31.25 inches (79.4 cm) Ian. Attached Images

31st May 2015, 05:52 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	"Your are correct, sir!" There were contacts with and I think even a colony of Moros in Ilokos where most of these come from in the north.

1st June 2015, 01:54 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Well by that time the Spanish had already kicked the Moros out, but some influence remained, like this type of wavy blade.

1st June 2015, 04:39 AM	#5
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Ian, I happy to see this thread brought back into the light of day again. If I remember correctly the sword you posted is not only one of the best examples of this style that I have ever seen, but is also unusual in the way the blade was sharpened. If memory serves me correctly this piece is quite unique in that the blade is single edged with only the lower edge being sharpened. All of the other examples that I have in my personal collection (swords and daggers) as well as all the others I have ever seen photos of or personally handled have always had both edges of their blades sharpened. I have alway regretted not having the funds to purchase this with for my own collection the one time that it was being offered for sale. Jose, Thank you very much for the new information concerning a colony of Moros living in Ilocos. Being that this is something I have never heard of until now do you by chance have any other information on where exactly they were located or possibly the time frame of when they lived there? Best, Robert