A unique bronze barrel wall gun (doppelter Doppelhaken), Nuremberg, ca. 1515-20

Matchlock · 12th October 2014, 05:39 AM

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Matchlock · 12th October 2014, 05:56 AM

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Matchlock · 12th October 2014, 06:20 AM

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cornelistromp · 12th October 2014, 10:39 AM

Here is a nice link to the Ulrich von Schellenberg hackbut.
press on play for the interesting slide show about the von Schellenberg hackbut gun.

http://slideplayer.us/slide/203796/

best,
jasper

Matchlock · 12th October 2014, 02:55 PM

Thanks a lot, Jasper,

I have known that video since 2006.
J.D. Julia also put a link on their site.
Sadly, the quality is too poor to judge the rank of the barrel, and the state of condition it was actually in.

The owner and I were in touch until December 2011 but he refused to take high-resolution images.

Best,
Michael

Matchlock · 13th October 2014, 03:56 PM

As the following definition is basic for the subject of this thread, here is what I have often pointed out since 2008.

Re: BRASS or "BRONZE" barrels?

Material type: Copper alloy

This term should be used for any alloy which appears to include copper. It is only if you know for sure that the item is a particular alloy (e.g. bronze, brass, gun metal, speculum) that you can correctly identify, and term, the item in question.

Most of the time, though, you will be able to identify the alloy only from the appearance, weight and type of object (e.g. leaded bronze for Medieval and post-Medieval cooking vessels, or brass for Byzantine buckets, or bronze for Bronze Age objects, bell-metal for bells, speculum for Roman mirrors, etc etc) and so the identification will not be certain.

Therefore if you do certainly know the type of alloy because you have had a compositional analysis, then it is very important to say this.

Also, keep in mind that the historic and contemporary term for cast-copper alloy barrels was BRASS.

Michael Trömner

estcrh · 19th October 2014, 06:42 AM

Michael I hope you are able to work out a solution to this problem, I and many other people will be reading your various posts here for years to come trying to glean as much of the incredibly valuable information you have very generously shared with all of us here, I personally can not thank you enough, years of reading books on the subjects you have discussed here would not replace what you have written.

Matchlock · 1st December 2014, 01:18 AM

As you may have noticed I have been having quite some hard times, and they are not over yet .

I promise you and all the others that I will be back right soon, and as quickly as possible.
Just do let me and my computer take another time-out for about 10 days or so.

Best,
Michael

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cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	Here is a nice link to the Ulrich von Schellenberg hackbut. press on play for the interesting slide show about the von Schellenberg hackbut gun. http://slideplayer.us/slide/203796/ best, jasper Last edited by cornelistromp; 12th October 2014 at 01:39 PM.

13th October 2014, 03:56 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	As the following definition is basic for the subject of this thread, here is what I have often pointed out since 2008. Re: BRASS or "BRONZE" barrels? Material type: Copper alloy This term should be used for any alloy which appears to include copper. It is only if you know for sure that the item is a particular alloy (e.g. bronze, brass, gun metal, speculum) that you can correctly identify, and term, the item in question. Most of the time, though, you will be able to identify the alloy only from the appearance, weight and type of object (e.g. leaded bronze for Medieval and post-Medieval cooking vessels, or brass for Byzantine buckets, or bronze for Bronze Age objects, bell-metal for bells, speculum for Roman mirrors, etc etc) and so the identification will not be certain. Therefore if you do certainly know the type of alloy because you have had a compositional analysis, then it is very important to say this. Also, keep in mind that the historic and contemporary term for cast-copper alloy barrels was BRASS. Michael Trömner Last edited by fernando; 3rd December 2014 at 04:43 PM. Reason: Author's request

1st December 2014, 01:18 AM	#8
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	As you may have noticed I have been having quite some hard times, and they are not over yet . I promise you and all the others that I will be back right soon, and as quickly as possible. Just do let me and my computer take another time-out for about 10 days or so. Best, Michael Last edited by fernando; 2nd December 2015 at 06:08 PM.

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12th October 2014, 02:55 PM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Thanks a lot, Jasper, I have known that video since 2006. J.D. Julia also put a link on their site. Sadly, the quality is too poor to judge the rank of the barrel, and the state of condition it was actually in. The owner and I were in touch until December 2011 but he refused to take high-resolution images. Best, Michael

19th October 2014, 06:42 AM	#7
estcrh Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,492	Michael I hope you are able to work out a solution to this problem, I and many other people will be reading your various posts here for years to come trying to glean as much of the incredibly valuable information you have very generously shared with all of us here, I personally can not thank you enough, years of reading books on the subjects you have discussed here would not replace what you have written.