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Old 17th August 2014, 11:44 AM   #1
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Firstly my last item posted here turned out not to be what I was hoping.

I really like the heavy lance and I think that is a flat-pack furniture dowel stuck in the end. Can not tell much about the blowgun? from these pictures. All look genuine. Bought in the Netherlands, I would image these items are from the Guiana's the Dutch part being Suriname. I think you got a real bargain on that lance.
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Old 17th August 2014, 02:03 PM   #2
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It was in a lot with some "african" (tourist) spears and the reason i bought it is because i read this thread a couple of times!! it was indeed a real bargin, i got a nice Nande shield too in the same lot.

But to me its now about finding out which tribe? Surinam is a good place to start so i'll try there.

The prong in the bottom is definitely something some got from an ikea furniture kit

The blowgun is a mystery to me too, i have never seen anything like it?(same lot though and same wood so could be same area).

So what happened to you last item Tim Simmons? what was it?


P.s. now i'm on the hunt for a Macana Club, man those things are beautiful!
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Old 16th September 2014, 11:44 AM   #3
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Adding another club very similar to a Bora? club I already have. This one is a little more decorative with feathers also lacking a central ridge. Both are 60cm in length. I hope to show more when it arrives.
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Old 18th September 2014, 10:18 PM   #4
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So i bought another lot yesterday, it was found in a thrift store then purchased by me.

I'm not entirely sure if it's all from the same region (i dont think so!) but there is a nice bow and very nice arrows! also a wooden staff/spear made from the hardest wood i have ever seen and decorated with feathers.

Then there is a strange bowl made from i believe a palm seed husk? and also a strange wood stick (no clue) and a paddle (looks tourist to me)
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Old 22nd December 2023, 05:14 PM   #5
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Default Club use Amazon

Found this article showing traditional clubs and guns against loggers in the Amazon. Ka'apor clubs like mine but much bigger.

https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/20...-trees/100805/
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Old 18th September 2014, 10:19 PM   #6
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Old 18th September 2014, 10:21 PM   #7
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Old 19th September 2014, 07:41 AM   #8
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I like the spear. Looks like it is very nice to have in your hands. What a great lot.
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Old 19th September 2014, 02:45 PM   #9
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I like the spear. Looks like it is very nice to have in your hands. What a great lot.
Thank you, it really feels great, very solid. one thing you might not directly notice in the pictures is that the bottom part of the spear is actually almost square while as you move up towards the tip the wood gets rounded.

Also i really like the fishing arrow and the blunt (for birds?) arrow although all of the arrows are missing there feathers (at the bottom).

Still no clue what the twisted piece of wood, the bowl or the paddle is

For the rest i'm thinking brazil/guyana/suriname area don't know a tribe yet but leaning more towards Surinam (like the last piece although very different/other tribe) as it was a form dutch colony and this was found in the Netherlands.
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Old 27th September 2014, 10:36 PM   #10
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Found a great resource for amazon weapons, its the American museum of national history database it is filled with beautiful clubs and others

Hope it can help someone http://anthro.amnh.org/south
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