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Old 8th June 2014, 11:58 PM   #1
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Dear Gustav and Jean,

Thank you Gustav, to remind my old post. At that time I was still searching for the name of that "Batman-like" hilt. Lately I just know, that people in Southern Sumatra used to call it "Putri Malu" (Shy Princess).

Jean, as in-reposting by Gustav, such that the appearance of my Palembang patrem (my Lampung friend even said it as "lampung patrem"), measuring only 20 cm.

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Dear Gustav and Jean,

Jean, as in-reposting by Gustav, such that the appearance of my Palembang patrem (my Lampung friend even said it as "lampung patrem"), measuring only 20 cm.

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Pak Ganja and Gustav,
Thanks for the clearer pic. The blade is very rustic (no pamor, simple shape, ganja iras) as compared to the typical blades from the area. Also the sampir has a different and less elegant shape than the Palembang ones ("rudder" and notch at the back especially).
To my knowledge the standard krisses from Lampung are quite similar to the Palembang ones except the hilt, so are these features specific to one area in Lampung or these krisses made for specific persons? I have another kris patrem (blade 22 cm long) from South Sumatra with a putri malu hilt also but the blade is rather in bahari style.
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Old 9th June 2014, 11:30 AM   #3
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Dear Jean,

I was deliberately not too clean my "Lampung/Palembang" patrem. Because, according to friends - usually a much sought Sumatran keris, was made of pamorless iron. Lucky even if it turns out to be "malela iron", a favorite for this type of Sumatran keris. Keris Panjang of Jambi, for example, it is rare with pamor. Its blade, generally made of greenish gray iron. Also Anak Alang type, which are shorter in size.

Sumatran keris that you show to me, it's a nice keris to me. From the shape of its greneng, seems typical Minang keris. It has slightly different greneng (Sorry, to use the Javanes term, I forgot the Sumatran term....) if you compare with those of Riau, or Jambi kerises. I have an example, the blades of Riau, or Jambi. Note the difference in 'greneng' part....

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Dear Jean,

Sumatran keris that you show to me, it's a nice keris to me. From the shape of its greneng, seems typical Minang keris. It has slightly different greneng (Sorry, to use the Javanes term, I forgot the Sumatran term....) if you compare with those of Riau, or Jambi kerises. I have an example, the blades of Riau, or Jambi. Note the difference in 'greneng' part....

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Pak Ganja,
I find your kris very nice, especially the carved JD hilt.
Ouch, a Minang blade with South Sumatra dress?
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