CALIVERMAN's Powder Flasks and Their Leather Frogs, Nuremberg, ca. 1580-1620

Marcus den toom · 11th March 2014, 01:26 PM

Some pictures of similair pieces.
This link is a rich source of powder flask and maybe even more.

http://silverwolf.lviv.ua/forum/view...hp?f=25&t=5212

and this one as well

http://www.pinterest.com/scasocial/as-leatherwork/

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/a...1-details.aspx

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"Powder-flask
Unknown Artist / Maker
Italy and Balkan
c. 1550- c. 1575 and 19th century
c. 1550- c. 1575 (body)
1800 - 1899 (mounts)
Leather and copper alloy, tooled
Height: 19 cm
Weight: 0.28 kg
Label: '904' Blue-edged label"

http://silverwolf.lviv.ua/forum/view...hp?f=25&t=5212

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"Powder-flask
Unknown Artist / Maker
Italy
3rd quarter of 16th century
Leather and steel, embossed and tooled
Height: 18.4 cm
Weight: 0.355 kg"

___________________
"Powder-flask
Unknown Artist / Maker
Italy
3rd quarter of 16th century
Leather and steel, embossed and tooled
Height: 18.4 cm
Weight: 0.48 kg"

______________________
"Powder-flask
Unknown Artist / Maker
Italy
3rd quarter of 16th century
Leather and steel, embossed, incised and chiselled
Height: 17.7 cm
Weight: 0.445 kg"

___________________
"Powder-flask
Unknown Artist / Maker
Italy
3rd quarter of 16th century
Leather, steel and gold, embossed, tooled, blued and gilded
Height: 14.6 cm
Weight: 0.2 kg"

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Matchlock · 15th March 2014, 12:07 PM

For details on bandoliers, please see also

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/editpo...tpost&p=167939

and

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=bandeliers

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Martin Moser · 15th March 2014, 12:41 PM

Thanks for posting, Marcus and Michael! It is amazing what can be done with leather and sad at the same time to think that many of these skills are lost to us now ...

Matchlock · 21st March 2014, 12:47 PM

Back to the roots of my thread: flasks for calivermen.

Here is a good sample, and one of the few that were obviously not made and engraved in Nuremberg; the top mount is hinged to fold out for easy refills, which is highly unusual.
It may be French and is dated 1597.
The style of engraving is very similar to that on the flask from post #23, which is attributed to Flanders, and certainly the template was the same in both cases.

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Matchlock · 23rd March 2014, 07:14 PM

A horn body for a caliverman's flask, French, ca. 1590-1600, the central female figure meant as the impersonation of war and inscribed in Old French La Guere (sic!). the original iron mounts and the reverse frog hook all missing, the nozzle and bottom plate later horn replacements.
The engraving follows the identical pattern as the flask in the previous post.

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Matchlock · 24th March 2014, 07:44 PM

Not a musketeer's flask, as the dealer thought, but that of a caliverman, ca. 1590-1600, in nicely patinated condition, and retaining some bluing on the iron mounts.
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Matchlock · 25th March 2014, 12:34 PM

A Nuremberg made and engraved flask of flattened cowhorn, ca. 1600, sold Hermann Historica, Munich, 18 Oct 2006.
This decoration is the well-known intertwined foliage that all Nurembeg workshops used as a pattern.
The blackened mounts finely convey a nice contrast to the white horn body which of course the artist originally intended. This is why a flask from this series with its iron mounts polished bright has lost all its charms.

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21st March 2014, 12:47 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Back to the roots of my thread: flasks for calivermen. Here is a good sample, and one of the few that were obviously not made and engraved in Nuremberg; the top mount is hinged to fold out for easy refills, which is highly unusual. It may be French and is dated 1597. The style of engraving is very similar to that on the flask from post #23, which is attributed to Flanders, and certainly the template was the same in both cases. m Attached Images

23rd March 2014, 07:14 PM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	A horn body for a caliverman's flask, French, ca. 1590-1600, the central female figure meant as the impersonation of war and inscribed in Old French La Guere (sic!). the original iron mounts and the reverse frog hook all missing, the nozzle and bottom plate later horn replacements. The engraving follows the identical pattern as the flask in the previous post. m Attached Images

24th March 2014, 07:44 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Not a musketeer's flask, as the dealer thought, but that of a caliverman, ca. 1590-1600, in nicely patinated condition, and retaining some bluing on the iron mounts. m Attached Images

25th March 2014, 12:34 PM	#7
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	A Nuremberg made and engraved flask of flattened cowhorn, ca. 1600, sold Hermann Historica, Munich, 18 Oct 2006. This decoration is the well-known intertwined foliage that all Nurembeg workshops used as a pattern. The blackened mounts finely convey a nice contrast to the white horn body which of course the artist originally intended. This is why a flask from this series with its iron mounts polished bright has lost all its charms. m Attached Images

11th March 2014, 01:26 PM	#1
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Some pictures of similair pieces. This link is a rich source of powder flask and maybe even more. http://silverwolf.lviv.ua/forum/view...hp?f=25&t=5212 and this one as well http://www.pinterest.com/scasocial/as-leatherwork/ http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/a...1-details.aspx _______________ "Powder-flask Unknown Artist / Maker Italy and Balkan c. 1550- c. 1575 and 19th century c. 1550- c. 1575 (body) 1800 - 1899 (mounts) Leather and copper alloy, tooled Height: 19 cm Weight: 0.28 kg Label: '904' Blue-edged label" http://silverwolf.lviv.ua/forum/view...hp?f=25&t=5212 _____________________ "Powder-flask Unknown Artist / Maker Italy 3rd quarter of 16th century Leather and steel, embossed and tooled Height: 18.4 cm Weight: 0.355 kg" ___________________ "Powder-flask Unknown Artist / Maker Italy 3rd quarter of 16th century Leather and steel, embossed and tooled Height: 18.4 cm Weight: 0.48 kg" ______________________ "Powder-flask Unknown Artist / Maker Italy 3rd quarter of 16th century Leather and steel, embossed, incised and chiselled Height: 17.7 cm Weight: 0.445 kg" ___________________ "Powder-flask Unknown Artist / Maker Italy 3rd quarter of 16th century Leather, steel and gold, embossed, tooled, blued and gilded Height: 14.6 cm Weight: 0.2 kg" ____________________ ???

15th March 2014, 12:07 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	For details on bandoliers, please see also http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/editpo...tpost&p=167939 and http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=bandeliers m

15th March 2014, 12:41 PM	#3
Martin Moser Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Near Munich, Bavaria, Germany Posts: 12	Thanks for posting, Marcus and Michael! It is amazing what can be done with leather and sad at the same time to think that many of these skills are lost to us now ...