Any Amazon collectors?

VANDOO · 13th January 2014, 08:12 PM

CONGRADULATIONS INDEED. SOMETIMES IT PAYS TO TAKE A LEAP AND NOT PONDER.

THE ITEMS I HAD SEEN WERE LIKE THE TOURIST OR NEWLY MADE ONES WITH POOR WORKMANSHIP AND NO DECORATIVE FIBER WRAP. I NEVER COULD FIND ANY INFORMATION TO BE SURE THEY WERE A REAL TRIBAL OBJECT OR SOMETHING MADE UP OR A TOOL.
THIS LINK CLEARS THAT ALL UP. THE CLUB YOU HAVE IS LIKELY FOR CEREMONIE OR DANCE RATHER THAN WAR BUT THE 1950'S WAS EARLY CONTACT WITH THE OUTSIDE WORLD FOR MANY TRIBES. THAT BEING THE CASE YOUR EXAMPLE IS A GOOD OLD AUTHENTIC ONE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MADE FOR TRIBAL USE. THE HANDLE END APPEARS TO HAVE HAD SOME CORDS MOST LIKELY DECORATIVE IN THE PAST. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS PONDERING IF THE PRONGS WERE STUCK IN SOMETHING AND CORDS TIED TO SOMETHING ELSE . I THOUGHT THAT ONE OUT TOO FAR

HERE IS AN OLD BOOK PLATE SHOWING KALINA, CARIB WEAPONS, ECT. NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CURRENT CLUB BUT IT ADDS TO THE REFRENCE.

VANDOO · 30th January 2014, 03:06 AM

MY SHIP FINALLY CAME IN AND SUPRIZENLY THE CLUB WAS LOCATED ONLY 90 MILES FROM HOME AND FROM THE SAME SOURCE AS THE 3 PRONGED CLUB. IT WAS COLLECTED BY MISSONARIES IN THE 1950'S FROM THE MAQUIRITARE TRIBE ALSO KNOWN AS THE YEKUANA TRIBE. IT HAS DECORATIVE PARROT FEATHERS ATTACHED WITH A CORD AND IS IN GOOD SHAPE WITH A LABEL ATTACHED WITH COLLECTING DATA. 29.25IN. LONG.
pictures #1,2 &3
I WENT LOOKING AND FOUND ONE OF THE FORKED CLUBS I HAD SEEN QUITE A WHILE BACK AND GOT IT. IT HAS 3 PRONGS, MOST HAVE TWO PRONGS LIKE THE PICTURE OF THE DOUBBLE PRONGED YEKUANA DAGGER PICTURED ABOVE. THERE IS ALSO A SPECIMIN OF IT IN THE LARGE COLLECTION PICTURED IN THIS POST.
PICTURE #4 THREE PRONG. 43 INCHES LONG VILLAGE CARVER YEKUANA TRIBE, NAME AND PICTURE.
PICTURE #5 PERHAPS A MODERN VERSION OF CLUB #1
PIC. # 6. A 7 FOOT LONG VERSION OF THE 2 PRONGED FORM OF WEAPON.
PIC. 8 THRU 10 VARIATIONS OF TWO PRONGED CLUBS

Tim Simmons · 30th January 2014, 04:07 PM

That other club from the same source looks very nice. I had hoped I might get it too but I could not stretch my funds that far.

Anyway my forked club is finally here and I think it is great. As I suggested it is quite substantial and when put next to other weapons it is clearly not a toy. If your enemy traditionally went into battle wearing little more than some feathers, special body paint and a bit string tied around his doodah. Having this forked club thrust at him would really put him off. It needs a little care. When I find suitable fibers I will secure the weave and show more pictures

VANDOO · 30th January 2014, 07:38 PM

A VERY ATTRACTIVE FOURSOME AND FOUR DIFFERENT DESIGNS IN THE FIBER WRAPS. IT MAKES ONE WONDER HOW MANY DIFFERENT PATTERNS THERE ARE IN THE REGION AND THE MEANINGS OF EACH.

Tim Simmons · 29th March 2014, 06:20 PM

New picture of uncontacted peoples on the Peru Brazil border march 2014. Got this as yahoo news but not all of us will be with yahoo. So it is still out there. Clubs, where can I get one

I want one

I need one so badly

VANDOO · 29th March 2014, 07:40 PM

IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WOULD BE GLAD TO GIVE YOU THE CLUBS. IF YOU WON THE FIGHT YOU COULD EVEN KEEP THEM.

OF COURSE THEY COULD BE FRIENDLY ITS JUST THAT THOSE NOISY HELICOPTERS INTURUPT THE NAP AND WAKE THE BABY.

THE AMAZON IS ONE OF THE FEW REGIONS LEFT WHERE YOU MAY COLLECT A ETHINOGRAPHIC CLUB, SPEAR, ARROW OR POISON DART IN YOUR CARCASS.

Tim Simmons · 7th June 2014, 03:41 PM

I am reduced to bad picture gambling again. The risk is no more than a couple of burgers and fries with perhaps one of those horrible soft drinks burger places sell. This club is 37 inches long ans approx 3.5 inches in diameter. Plain simple clubs like this are known as Amazon weapons. The wood looks like it could do with some dressing, rather dry in these pics. When it arrives better judgment can be made. I show three clubs as a size comparison. On the left is a Shavanti Amazon club 40 inches long, diameter 3.75 inches. Centre Kayapo 38 inches long with a rectangular end 2.75 inches x 2.25 inches. On the right a Fijian club approx 37 inches long with a head diameter of approx 3 inches. You can see why I having taken a chance. Will show more in time.

30th January 2014, 03:06 AM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	MY SHIP FINALLY CAME IN AND SUPRIZENLY THE CLUB WAS LOCATED ONLY 90 MILES FROM HOME AND FROM THE SAME SOURCE AS THE 3 PRONGED CLUB. IT WAS COLLECTED BY MISSONARIES IN THE 1950'S FROM THE MAQUIRITARE TRIBE ALSO KNOWN AS THE YEKUANA TRIBE. IT HAS DECORATIVE PARROT FEATHERS ATTACHED WITH A CORD AND IS IN GOOD SHAPE WITH A LABEL ATTACHED WITH COLLECTING DATA. 29.25IN. LONG. pictures #1,2 &3 I WENT LOOKING AND FOUND ONE OF THE FORKED CLUBS I HAD SEEN QUITE A WHILE BACK AND GOT IT. IT HAS 3 PRONGS, MOST HAVE TWO PRONGS LIKE THE PICTURE OF THE DOUBBLE PRONGED YEKUANA DAGGER PICTURED ABOVE. THERE IS ALSO A SPECIMIN OF IT IN THE LARGE COLLECTION PICTURED IN THIS POST. PICTURE #4 THREE PRONG. 43 INCHES LONG VILLAGE CARVER YEKUANA TRIBE, NAME AND PICTURE. PICTURE #5 PERHAPS A MODERN VERSION OF CLUB #1 PIC. # 6. A 7 FOOT LONG VERSION OF THE 2 PRONGED FORM OF WEAPON. PIC. 8 THRU 10 VARIATIONS OF TWO PRONGED CLUBS Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 30th January 2014 at 04:14 AM.

30th January 2014, 04:07 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,871	That other club from the same source looks very nice. I had hoped I might get it too but I could not stretch my funds that far. Anyway my forked club is finally here and I think it is great. As I suggested it is quite substantial and when put next to other weapons it is clearly not a toy. If your enemy traditionally went into battle wearing little more than some feathers, special body paint and a bit string tied around his doodah. Having this forked club thrust at him would really put him off. It needs a little care. When I find suitable fibers I will secure the weave and show more pictures Attached Images

7th June 2014, 03:41 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,871	Club gamble I am reduced to bad picture gambling again. The risk is no more than a couple of burgers and fries with perhaps one of those horrible soft drinks burger places sell. This club is 37 inches long ans approx 3.5 inches in diameter. Plain simple clubs like this are known as Amazon weapons. The wood looks like it could do with some dressing, rather dry in these pics. When it arrives better judgment can be made. I show three clubs as a size comparison. On the left is a Shavanti Amazon club 40 inches long, diameter 3.75 inches. Centre Kayapo 38 inches long with a rectangular end 2.75 inches x 2.25 inches. On the right a Fijian club approx 37 inches long with a head diameter of approx 3 inches. You can see why I having taken a chance. Will show more in time. Attached Images

13th January 2014, 08:12 PM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	CONGRADULATIONS INDEED. SOMETIMES IT PAYS TO TAKE A LEAP AND NOT PONDER. THE ITEMS I HAD SEEN WERE LIKE THE TOURIST OR NEWLY MADE ONES WITH POOR WORKMANSHIP AND NO DECORATIVE FIBER WRAP. I NEVER COULD FIND ANY INFORMATION TO BE SURE THEY WERE A REAL TRIBAL OBJECT OR SOMETHING MADE UP OR A TOOL. THIS LINK CLEARS THAT ALL UP. THE CLUB YOU HAVE IS LIKELY FOR CEREMONIE OR DANCE RATHER THAN WAR BUT THE 1950'S WAS EARLY CONTACT WITH THE OUTSIDE WORLD FOR MANY TRIBES. THAT BEING THE CASE YOUR EXAMPLE IS A GOOD OLD AUTHENTIC ONE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MADE FOR TRIBAL USE. THE HANDLE END APPEARS TO HAVE HAD SOME CORDS MOST LIKELY DECORATIVE IN THE PAST. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS PONDERING IF THE PRONGS WERE STUCK IN SOMETHING AND CORDS TIED TO SOMETHING ELSE . I THOUGHT THAT ONE OUT TOO FAR HERE IS AN OLD BOOK PLATE SHOWING KALINA, CARIB WEAPONS, ECT. NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CURRENT CLUB BUT IT ADDS TO THE REFRENCE. Attached Images

30th January 2014, 07:38 PM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A VERY ATTRACTIVE FOURSOME AND FOUR DIFFERENT DESIGNS IN THE FIBER WRAPS. IT MAKES ONE WONDER HOW MANY DIFFERENT PATTERNS THERE ARE IN THE REGION AND THE MEANINGS OF EACH.

29th March 2014, 06:20 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,871	New picture of uncontacted peoples on the Peru Brazil border march 2014. Got this as yahoo news but not all of us will be with yahoo. So it is still out there. Clubs, where can I get one I want one I need one so badly Attached Images

29th March 2014, 07:40 PM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WOULD BE GLAD TO GIVE YOU THE CLUBS. IF YOU WON THE FIGHT YOU COULD EVEN KEEP THEM. OF COURSE THEY COULD BE FRIENDLY ITS JUST THAT THOSE NOISY HELICOPTERS INTURUPT THE NAP AND WAKE THE BABY. THE AMAZON IS ONE OF THE FEW REGIONS LEFT WHERE YOU MAY COLLECT A ETHINOGRAPHIC CLUB, SPEAR, ARROW OR POISON DART IN YOUR CARCASS.