Old Luzon Kris

Robert · 22nd August 2012, 12:16 AM

Hello Steve, Yeah I've always been envious of that dagger of yours. As far as not ever having a guard goes I have seen more than one of these that have no space for one or evidence of ever having one. I brought that up in my first post on this sword but I agree with the fact that most did. I am just trying to figure out if this particular one ever did. When you are tired of looking at that wonderful dagger of yours "or any of the others you have" just send it my way and I promise that I will give it a good home with lots of its brothers to keep it company.

Regards,
Robert

P.S.
One other thing that I was going to mention on this is that on all of the examples that I have seen that did not look to have ever had a guard the blade ends in a wave where it meets the hilt instead of being straight like on Michaels example and the one half wave that I have posted above.

VANDOO · 25th August 2012, 05:46 AM

I FOUND A KRIS ALMOST AS LARGE AS YOURS IN A OLD POST WHILE LOOKING FOR A MISSING POST WHICH IS STILL MISSING. I WAS GOING TO TRANSFER THE PICTURE HERE BUT MY C-PUTER REFUZES TO COOPERATE. SEARCH ARCHIVES FOR POST "KRIS SWORD VARIATIONS" POSTED 4/06/2004. THERE ARE TWO PICTURES ONE WITH A YARD STICK.

David · 25th August 2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VANDOO

I FOUND A KRIS ALMOST AS LARGE AS YOURS IN A OLD POST WHILE LOOKING FOR A MISSING POST WHICH IS STILL MISSING. I WAS GOING TO TRANSFER THE PICTURE HERE BUT MY C-PUTER REFUZES TO COOPERATE. SEARCH ARCHIVES FOR POST "KRIS SWORD VARIATIONS" POSTED 4/06/2004. THERE ARE TWO PICTURES ONE WITH A YARD STICK.

Barry, why don't you just copy & paste the link to the thread.

Robert · 25th August 2012, 03:53 PM

I believe that I've found the picture Barry was referring to. If I am reading the yard stick correctly it is actually longer than the one that I have posted.

It is quite a beautiful example and I am very envious of its owner. I have a dagger that matches it very nicely and would make a great pair. Thank you for the heads up on this Barry. Because it requires a separate search from the rest of the forum I seldom remember about it and end up missing out on all the great items and information listed in the old UBB forum. Here is a link to Barry's original thread that the below picture is from. Again my thanks for pointing this out to me. http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001969.html

Regards,
Robert

Ian · 31st May 2015, 01:27 PM

In going back over some old threads, I found this one on Luzon kris--which represent one form of Spanish colonial sword that has received little attention. While flambé blades have been well recognized among European swords, the "Luzon kris" seems more directly related to the Moro kris than a European ancestor.

Here is an example from the History of Steel exhibition held several years ago in Macao. OAL = 31.25 inches (79.4 cm)

Ian.

Battara · 31st May 2015, 05:52 PM

"Your are correct, sir!" There were contacts with and I think even a colony of Moros in Ilokos where most of these come from in the north.

Ian · 1st June 2015, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

"Your are correct, sir!" There were contacts with and I think even a colony of Moros in Ilokos where most of these come from in the north.

Thanks Jose. Interesting factoid. Did not know about Moros in Luzon during the 19th-20th C.

Ian.

25th August 2012, 03:53 PM	#4
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	I believe that I've found the picture Barry was referring to. If I am reading the yard stick correctly it is actually longer than the one that I have posted. It is quite a beautiful example and I am very envious of its owner. I have a dagger that matches it very nicely and would make a great pair. Thank you for the heads up on this Barry. Because it requires a separate search from the rest of the forum I seldom remember about it and end up missing out on all the great items and information listed in the old UBB forum. Here is a link to Barry's original thread that the below picture is from. Again my thanks for pointing this out to me. http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001969.html Regards, Robert Attached Images

31st May 2015, 01:27 PM	#5
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	In going back over some old threads, I found this one on Luzon kris--which represent one form of Spanish colonial sword that has received little attention. While flambé blades have been well recognized among European swords, the "Luzon kris" seems more directly related to the Moro kris than a European ancestor. Here is an example from the History of Steel exhibition held several years ago in Macao. OAL = 31.25 inches (79.4 cm) Ian. Attached Images

22nd August 2012, 12:16 AM	#1
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Steve, Yeah I've always been envious of that dagger of yours. As far as not ever having a guard goes I have seen more than one of these that have no space for one or evidence of ever having one. I brought that up in my first post on this sword but I agree with the fact that most did. I am just trying to figure out if this particular one ever did. When you are tired of looking at that wonderful dagger of yours "or any of the others you have" just send it my way and I promise that I will give it a good home with lots of its brothers to keep it company. Regards, Robert P.S. One other thing that I was going to mention on this is that on all of the examples that I have seen that did not look to have ever had a guard the blade ends in a wave where it meets the hilt instead of being straight like on Michaels example and the one half wave that I have posted above.

25th August 2012, 05:46 AM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I FOUND A KRIS ALMOST AS LARGE AS YOURS IN A OLD POST WHILE LOOKING FOR A MISSING POST WHICH IS STILL MISSING. I WAS GOING TO TRANSFER THE PICTURE HERE BUT MY C-PUTER REFUZES TO COOPERATE. SEARCH ARCHIVES FOR POST "KRIS SWORD VARIATIONS" POSTED 4/06/2004. THERE ARE TWO PICTURES ONE WITH A YARD STICK.

31st May 2015, 05:52 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	"Your are correct, sir!" There were contacts with and I think even a colony of Moros in Ilokos where most of these come from in the north.