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9th May 2012, 03:06 AM
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A work in progress; steel or clay ?
Something is missing . 
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9th May 2012, 05:36 AM
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Quote:
 Hence the "Bucao" engraved on the blade must be referring to the owner's family name... |
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9th May 2012, 06:40 AM
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Seeing as it can refer to a knife, tool, other implement or pot being worked (possibly at a certain stage) could it just be a term for heat treated ??
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14th May 2012, 03:33 AM
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This Bicol blade is from Vandoo's collection.
The engraved "duggan" text on the blade can mean two things once again - either the family name of the former owner, or the name of a process in making the blade. On the latter, we see this definition of duggan or dugang from the Bicol-English dictionary by Mintz: dugang - 'to cool and harden (metal after it has been cast) [MDL]'. 'MDL' refers to Marcos de Lisboa's 1754 Bicol-Spanish dictionary. |
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18th October 2012, 06:26 PM
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SMALL VISAYAN KNIFE ,BICOL REGION
I JUST PICKED UP THIS LITTLE GEM. IT HAS A VERY WELL CARVED HORN HANDLE WITH A BRASS POMMEL CAP, BRASS FERRULE AND BRASS THROAT ON SCABBARD AND ONE BRASS BAND. NICE CARVED WOOD SCABBARD AND A CHISEL GROUND BLADE WITH FLORAL DESIGN ENGRAVED ON BLADE. 13 INCHES LONG IN SCABBARD, 7.5IN. BLADE. SOMEONE CRUDELY SCRATCHED IN "MADE IN P.I." ON SCABBARD WW2 BRING BACK.
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18th October 2012, 06:58 PM
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Nice one Barry. Maybe our new member Bangkaya will be able to tell us more about this small bolos!?
Regards, Detlef |
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18th October 2012, 07:22 PM
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Hello,
Though are a number of variations of blade style in Bicol, there are basically 4 prevalent types: Minasbad Dinahong-palay Ginunting Sinampalok This was all explained to me by a panday from Tabaco, Albay in Bicol. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to take photos since I left my camera at my friends house (we were in search of pili nuts and just happened to run into the panday.) Most of the swords pictured on this thread are sinampalok or dinahong-palay (dahon palay in tagalog=rice leaf.) The minasbad is the long sword sometimes with an elaborate guard. The ginunting has a blade that is recurved but not hooked down like the modern Ilonggo or Marine Recon ginunting. The dinahong-palay and sinampalok are similar, however, the blade on the sinampalok tapers towards the hilt where the dinahong-palay maintains a constant width then abrubtly tapers usually with a hook like projection or goosenecks to the ricasso (much like a tinamban sansibar from Leyte.) As for the figural carving, he described this type seen on this thread as inaso or aso (dog) faced carving. The other figural style is called sawa which I believe is more of a crocodile or naga form. Regards, Bankaya |
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19th October 2012, 07:54 PM
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Thank you very much!
So when I understand correct is mine a sinampalok and the one from Barry (Vandoo) a dinahong-palay. Regards, Detlef |
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19th October 2012, 08:36 PM
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Hello Sajen,
From what was explained to me is that your bolo is a sinampalok since it gradually tapers towards the hilt. Vandoo's bolo is a dinahong-palay since his blade doesn't taper much but goosenecks at the ricasso with sort of a hooklike projection. Both are really nice examples from around WWII and both have the inaso carved pommel. They were probably both made in either the Rinconada or Tabaco in Albay, Bicol. Hope this helps. Regards, Bangkaya |
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