New Sword

Robert · 29th August 2005, 06:58 PM

Hi Tim,
It is a monkey skull. The seller said that this was brought back by his grandfather after WWII.

Robert

fearn · 29th August 2005, 08:59 PM

I'll admit I'm surprised too. Why aren't the PI people swarming on this one? Isn't it some sort of talibon?

F

Freddy · 29th August 2005, 10:28 PM

This is the one I used to have :

The origin was also the Philippines. There was a thread quite some time ago, perhaps someone could help in finding it ?

Robert · 29th August 2005, 11:04 PM

Freddy,
What did the blade on the one you had look like, did it look like the one on mine or was it of a different style alltogether?

Robert

Rick · 29th August 2005, 11:08 PM

Robert , when you get it better pictures and measurements will tell us more .
The blade profile seems not quite right for a garab or talibon ; too much belly too far forward .

http://www.vikingsword.com/rila/krieger.html

http://www.vikingsword.com/ethsword/ifugao/index.html

Robert · 30th August 2005, 12:00 AM

Rick,
Thanks for your help. The two links you posted are the first places I look when I get something new. I will be posting more and better pictures as soon as the sword arrives. I was just hoping that with just the one lousy picture that I had of it with the very distinctive shape of the sheath and blade that someone might have an idea of who made it.

Robert

Freddy · 31st August 2005, 07:41 PM

Hi Robert. I can't find a pic of the whole blade, but here's one of the tip of the sword. It's very different of yours. If you look carefully at the first picture I put on this thread, you can see the shape of the blade. The sword has an open scabbard.

Ian · 31st August 2005, 10:40 PM

Freddy:

The example that you show is a late 20th C. version of a pinahig from one of the Igorot groups, perhaps Ifugao or Bontoc.

Robert's sword looks more like a parang nabor from Borneo, although I want to reserve judgment until we have much better pictures. The hilt appears atypical for a parang nabor but the blade looks right.

Monkey skulls on sheaths seem to have become increasingly popular in the second half of the 20th C. Although there are older examples, I think this feature is largely an attempt to "dress up" recent offerings and make them more appealing to collectors.

Ian.

29th August 2005, 06:58 PM	#1
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hi Tim, It is a monkey skull. The seller said that this was brought back by his grandfather after WWII. Robert

29th August 2005, 08:59 PM	#2
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	I'll admit I'm surprised too. Why aren't the PI people swarming on this one? Isn't it some sort of talibon? F

29th August 2005, 10:28 PM	#3
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	This is the one I used to have : The origin was also the Philippines. There was a thread quite some time ago, perhaps someone could help in finding it ?

29th August 2005, 11:04 PM	#4
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Freddy, What did the blade on the one you had look like, did it look like the one on mine or was it of a different style alltogether? Robert

29th August 2005, 11:08 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,378	Robert , when you get it better pictures and measurements will tell us more . The blade profile seems not quite right for a garab or talibon ; too much belly too far forward . http://www.vikingsword.com/rila/krieger.html http://www.vikingsword.com/ethsword/ifugao/index.html

30th August 2005, 12:00 AM	#6
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Rick, Thanks for your help. The two links you posted are the first places I look when I get something new. I will be posting more and better pictures as soon as the sword arrives. I was just hoping that with just the one lousy picture that I had of it with the very distinctive shape of the sheath and blade that someone might have an idea of who made it. Robert

31st August 2005, 07:41 PM	#7
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	Hi Robert. I can't find a pic of the whole blade, but here's one of the tip of the sword. It's very different of yours. If you look carefully at the first picture I put on this thread, you can see the shape of the blade. The sword has an open scabbard.

31st August 2005, 10:40 PM	#8
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,596	Freddy: The example that you show is a late 20th C. version of a pinahig from one of the Igorot groups, perhaps Ifugao or Bontoc. Robert's sword looks more like a parang nabor from Borneo, although I want to reserve judgment until we have much better pictures. The hilt appears atypical for a parang nabor but the blade looks right. Monkey skulls on sheaths seem to have become increasingly popular in the second half of the 20th C. Although there are older examples, I think this feature is largely an attempt to "dress up" recent offerings and make them more appealing to collectors. Ian.