15th century short wrought iron barrels - why there are so many around

Spiridonov · 8th April 2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Matchlock

Another interesting little wrought iron barrel, of early 15th century form, contrasted to a source of illustration of a baptismal font of similiar three ring reinforced shape, an illumination from a Prague manuscript of ca. 1420.

Michael

Michael, I have a friend from Ryazan who practice in target shooting with replicas of 15 century handgonne. He'd really liked this handgonne and wants to make replica of this for target shooting. He often read our forum But he doesn't have an registration on vikingsword. So, he asked me to know the length, outside diameter and caliber of this handgonne. May You help me with this question?

Matchlock · 8th April 2012, 05:57 PM

Hi Alexender,

of course I can!

The overall length is 11.4 cm, the (quite irregular) maximum outer diameter is 4.4 cm, and the bore is 14.86 mm. The diameter of the touch hole, again irregular as it was not bored but struck thru the white-hot iron with a hardened prick, is ca. 6 mm.

I'd like to see images of the replica!

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov · 8th April 2012, 06:54 PM

Thank You!

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Originally Posted by Matchlock

I'd like to see images of the replica!

He said that he wants to

He starting to make blueprints tomorrow

Matchlock · 8th April 2012, 08:15 PM

Please tell him to remember that the iron rings have to be forged separately, put on the barrel when white-warm and fire-forged!

m

Spiridonov · 8th April 2012, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Matchlock

Please tell him to remember that the iron rings have to be forged separately, put on the barrel when white-warm and be fire-forged!

m

He knows it

Matchlock · 8th April 2012, 08:54 PM

All the better!

m

Matchlock · 14th March 2014, 11:43 AM

This most remarkable device, probably made in the Thirty Years War and re-using short, older barrels, is called Sturmkolben or Igel in German, and I would be glad to know the English equivalent.
Such multi-barreled devices account for the wide presence of short 15th-16th c. barrels which were 'on the loose' again when the device was destroyed or given up.
Preserved in the Army Museum, Stockholm.

Best,
Michael

8th April 2012, 08:15 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Please tell him to remember that the iron rings have to be forged separately, put on the barrel when white-warm and fire-forged! m Last edited by Matchlock; 8th April 2012 at 08:54 PM.

14th March 2014, 11:43 AM	#7
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	This most remarkable device, probably made in the Thirty Years War and re-using short, older barrels, is called Sturmkolben or Igel in German, and I would be glad to know the English equivalent. Such multi-barreled devices account for the wide presence of short 15th-16th c. barrels which were 'on the loose' again when the device was destroyed or given up. Preserved in the Army Museum, Stockholm. Best, Michael Attached Images

8th April 2012, 05:57 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Alexender, of course I can! The overall length is 11.4 cm, the (quite irregular) maximum outer diameter is 4.4 cm, and the bore is 14.86 mm. The diameter of the touch hole, again irregular as it was not bored but struck thru the white-hot iron with a hardened prick, is ca. 6 mm. I'd like to see images of the replica! Best, Michael

8th April 2012, 08:54 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	All the better! m