Curious Kris

ThePepperSkull · 28th October 2011, 07:55 AM

More pics.

Which region is this "Elephant Trunk" shape typically attributed to? Maguindanao?

Anyone familiar with Okir? The carving style looks unfamiliar to me but admittedly as little my eyes are trained to see the subtleties in blade shapes, they are even less attuned to recognize Okir.

Henk · 28th October 2011, 08:33 AM

My careful guess is that this kris has a broken tip that is reshaped into a dagger like tip. Still a very nice piece.

Gavin Nugent · 28th October 2011, 12:29 PM

A very very very rare Moro Sabre.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=rare+moro

It has been a very long time since I read Cato so I can not rememeber if these are mentioned...anyone care to comment?

Battara · 28th October 2011, 04:21 PM

Yes this is a kris varient. I agree that the trunk looks like the Maguindanao cross over type but the scabbard looks more Sulu. Not unheard of to do trade between the groups.

Rick · 28th October 2011, 06:19 PM

I think that this shape was made a purpose rather than reshaped .
The fuller curves up at the point .

I envy the owner .

VANDOO · 29th October 2011, 12:37 AM

PERHAPS THE SWORD TIP IS MODELED AFTER THE JAPANESE SWORD POINT.?

EITHER WAY A NICE AND RARE VARIATION OF KRIS.

laEspadaAncha · 29th October 2011, 01:12 AM

It is visually stunning, isn't it?

Any ideas, theories, or speculations as to what influenced this particular form? I like the above comparison of the asymmetrical profile/grind of the blade tip to the kissaki of a Japanese sword. Similar profiles were also found on swords from Dynastic China and Korea.

28th October 2011, 07:55 AM	#1
ThePepperSkull Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 338	More pics. Which region is this "Elephant Trunk" shape typically attributed to? Maguindanao? Anyone familiar with Okir? The carving style looks unfamiliar to me but admittedly as little my eyes are trained to see the subtleties in blade shapes, they are even less attuned to recognize Okir. Attached Images Last edited by ThePepperSkull; 28th October 2011 at 08:28 AM.

28th October 2011, 12:29 PM	#3
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	A very very very rare Moro Sabre. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=rare+moro It has been a very long time since I read Cato so I can not rememeber if these are mentioned...anyone care to comment? Attached Images Last edited by freebooter; 28th October 2011 at 12:39 PM.

28th October 2011, 08:33 AM	#2
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	My careful guess is that this kris has a broken tip that is reshaped into a dagger like tip. Still a very nice piece.

28th October 2011, 04:21 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Yes this is a kris varient. I agree that the trunk looks like the Maguindanao cross over type but the scabbard looks more Sulu. Not unheard of to do trade between the groups.

28th October 2011, 06:19 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	I think that this shape was made a purpose rather than reshaped . The fuller curves up at the point . I envy the owner .

29th October 2011, 12:37 AM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	PERHAPS THE SWORD TIP IS MODELED AFTER THE JAPANESE SWORD POINT.? EITHER WAY A NICE AND RARE VARIATION OF KRIS.

29th October 2011, 01:12 AM	#7
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	It is visually stunning, isn't it? Any ideas, theories, or speculations as to what influenced this particular form? I like the above comparison of the asymmetrical profile/grind of the blade tip to the kissaki of a Japanese sword. Similar profiles were also found on swords from Dynastic China and Korea.