Piso Podang Batak or Borneo?

Maurice · 24th April 2011, 07:59 PM

Oh and because it is was in the same collection with Batak pieces, and I have never seen a silver pommeled one from Borneo, I strongly incline to Batak instead of Iban/Dusun....

rasdan · 24th April 2011, 08:49 PM

Hello,

Some of these are actually used by Malay rulers. I had attached 2 photos of the weapon in question used to escort 2 Malay Sultan. The first is Sultan Ahmad, Sultan of Pahang, the second one is Sultan Muhammad, Sultan of Negeri Sembilan. Both pictures are taken in the end of 1800's.

I have in my possession a sword like that that is from the Malay Peninsula. It looked the same like their Sumatran counterparts, but there's a bit of intricacy of design of the hilt. The hilt is made with some white metal; probably silver aloy (since it has blackish oxidation), plated with gold. I have seen another one that is in a possesion of somebody in my hometown, a slightly larger/longer sword just like mine, that is said to be a present from Sultan Abu Bakar of Johore.

p/s: Mykeris, if you are reading this, please don't laugh.

erikscollectables · 24th April 2011, 08:58 PM

Very interesting, I did not know about this - these seem to be straight ones as well! Thanks for the info! Regards, Erik

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Originally Posted by rasdan

Hello,

Some of these are actually used by Malay rulers. I had attached 2 photos of the weapon in question used to escort 2 Malay Sultan. The first is Sultan Ahmad, Sultan of Pahang, the second one is Sultan Muhammad, Sultan of Negeri Sembilan. Both pictures are taken in the end of 1800's.

I have in my possession a sword like that that is from the Malay Peninsula. It looked the same like their Sumatran counterparts, but there's a bit of intricacy of design of the hilt. The hilt is made with some white metal; probably silver aloy (since it has blackish oxidation), plated with gold. I have seen another one that is in a possesion of somebody in my hometown, a slightly larger/longer sword just like mine, that is said to be a present from Sultan Abu Bakar of Johore.

p/s: Mykeris, if you are reading this, please don't laugh.

rasdan · 24th April 2011, 09:04 PM

You're welcome Erik. Mine and the other one that I had seen are straight, just like yours. But it seems form the pic, there's curved ones as well..

erikscollectables · 24th April 2011, 09:27 PM

Hello Rasdan,

I noted that too. How strange that the same type of weapon appears in these different places, Sumatra, Borneo and Malasia.

I recently saw a picture from a friend with a ruler of Kutai in Borneo with an Aceh sikin with crowns. I was quite surprised by that!

Erik

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Originally Posted by rasdan

You're welcome Erik. Mine and the other one that I had seen are straight, just like yours. But it seems form the pic, there's curved ones as well..

rasdan · 24th April 2011, 09:31 PM

Yes Erik, which makes collecting and researching more fun.

I'll try to take some pictures of my sword and post it here later.

erikscollectables · 24th April 2011, 09:42 PM

Please do so Rasdan, it seems very little has been written about this type of weapon. I will see what I can find more. This might make a nice article!

Regards, Erik

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Originally Posted by rasdan

Yes Erik, which makes collecting and researching more fun.

I'll try to take some pictures of my sword and post it here later.

24th April 2011, 08:49 PM	#2
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 369	Hello, Some of these are actually used by Malay rulers. I had attached 2 photos of the weapon in question used to escort 2 Malay Sultan. The first is Sultan Ahmad, Sultan of Pahang, the second one is Sultan Muhammad, Sultan of Negeri Sembilan. Both pictures are taken in the end of 1800's. I have in my possession a sword like that that is from the Malay Peninsula. It looked the same like their Sumatran counterparts, but there's a bit of intricacy of design of the hilt. The hilt is made with some white metal; probably silver aloy (since it has blackish oxidation), plated with gold. I have seen another one that is in a possesion of somebody in my hometown, a slightly larger/longer sword just like mine, that is said to be a present from Sultan Abu Bakar of Johore. p/s: Mykeris, if you are reading this, please don't laugh. Attached Images

24th April 2011, 07:59 PM	#1
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	Oh and because it is was in the same collection with Batak pieces, and I have never seen a silver pommeled one from Borneo, I strongly incline to Batak instead of Iban/Dusun....

24th April 2011, 09:04 PM	#4
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 369	You're welcome Erik. Mine and the other one that I had seen are straight, just like yours. But it seems form the pic, there's curved ones as well..

24th April 2011, 09:31 PM	#6
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 369	Yes Erik, which makes collecting and researching more fun. I'll try to take some pictures of my sword and post it here later.