Indonésia or Philippines?

David · 27th January 2011, 10:33 PM

Interesting...i've never seen anything quite like it, but the sheath definitely gives me the feeling this is Indonesian. I understand why the clamp caused you question as i have never seen them used on Indonesian sundangs, but everything else seems to point towards Indonesia.

Robert · 27th January 2011, 10:58 PM

Hello Eric, A very interesting and nice item. Does this piece have a full length tang and could you post a picture of the end of the hilt? To me the hilt looks like it could be made of bone and horn but a closer picture could help to decide.

Robert

ericlaude · 27th January 2011, 10:59 PM

Me too David, I know the Moro's clamps, but I never seen it on the indonesian items. I bought it with an old mandau, is it a Dayak work?

ericlaude · 27th January 2011, 11:06 PM

Hi Robert, the pommel is broken. look at the pictures.

VANDOO · 27th January 2011, 11:25 PM

I HAVE SEEN A FEW ITEMS WITH SIMULAR BLADES KIND OF A CROSS BETWEEN A KERIS AND SEVERAL OTHER INDONESIAN KNIVES. ONE PICTURE HERE WAS REFERRED TO AS A NIAS KERIS. THE OTHER AS A WHAT IS IT. THE PICTURES ARE POOR BUT THE CARVING ON THE (WHAT IS IT)SCABBARD LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THE STUFF COMMING OUT OF LOMBOK. A INTERESTING AND ATTRACTIVE ITEM CONGRADULATIONS.

Battara · 28th January 2011, 01:17 AM

I agree. Never seen anything like this before. I also lean toward Malay since they do sundang with clamps.

DaveS · 28th January 2011, 03:11 AM

I agree with Jose. Never have seen anything quite like it. Leaning to a
peninsular attribution..........Dave.

27th January 2011, 10:59 PM	#3
ericlaude Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 187	Me too David, I know the Moro's clamps, but I never seen it on the indonesian items. I bought it with an old mandau, is it a Dayak work? Last edited by ericlaude; 27th January 2011 at 11:19 PM.

27th January 2011, 11:06 PM	#4
ericlaude Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 187	Hi Robert, the pommel is broken. look at the pictures. Attached Images

27th January 2011, 11:25 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I HAVE SEEN A FEW ITEMS WITH SIMULAR BLADES KIND OF A CROSS BETWEEN A KERIS AND SEVERAL OTHER INDONESIAN KNIVES. ONE PICTURE HERE WAS REFERRED TO AS A NIAS KERIS. THE OTHER AS A WHAT IS IT. THE PICTURES ARE POOR BUT THE CARVING ON THE (WHAT IS IT)SCABBARD LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THE STUFF COMMING OUT OF LOMBOK. A INTERESTING AND ATTRACTIVE ITEM CONGRADULATIONS. Attached Images

27th January 2011, 10:33 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Interesting...i've never seen anything quite like it, but the sheath definitely gives me the feeling this is Indonesian. I understand why the clamp caused you question as i have never seen them used on Indonesian sundangs, but everything else seems to point towards Indonesia.

27th January 2011, 10:58 PM	#2
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Eric, A very interesting and nice item. Does this piece have a full length tang and could you post a picture of the end of the hilt? To me the hilt looks like it could be made of bone and horn but a closer picture could help to decide. Robert

28th January 2011, 01:17 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I agree. Never seen anything like this before. I also lean toward Malay since they do sundang with clamps.

28th January 2011, 03:11 AM	#7
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	I agree with Jose. Never have seen anything quite like it. Leaning to a peninsular attribution..........Dave.