PALEMBANG HILT AND KERIS

ganjawulung · 2nd June 2010, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kai

You have it in your hands - does it really look like a later replacement? From the pics the surface looks much smoother and the scroll-work more crisp; thus, this would be my working hypothesis if hands-on examination doesn't reveal hints to the contrary.

IMHO, Palembang style was much influenced to javanese style. We could still see until now, many old Palembang blades are sometimes quite similar to javanese blades. A ganjawulung fixed to a blade, is quite common in Java. And I think it could be common to Palembang style too.

(Images below, the more complete picture of my Palembang keris, with another silver pendokok...)

GANJAWULUNG

ganjawulung · 2nd June 2010, 02:48 AM

And another close up of the hilt and the silver pendokok...

GANJAWULUNG

ganjawulung · 2nd June 2010, 05:29 AM

Dear All,

Another images of a Palembang keris, but with Cirebonese "buta" hilt. Is is a match pair, a Cirebon hilt on a Palembang keris?

GANJAWULUNG

PenangsangII · 2nd June 2010, 06:06 AM

Dear Pak Ganjawulung,

IMHO, Cirebonese hilts are the most flexible. It can match any Javanese blade and Wrangka, or Malay blade and sarung..... even Buginese's.

ganjawulung · 2nd June 2010, 06:33 AM

Yes, Penangsang,

Agree. If you have a Segaluh keris -- with the specific protruding gandhik with sekar kacang -- it is difficult to get a match pairing with javanese (solonese, or jogjanese) hilt. But almost certain, will match with Cirebon hilt. Especially the "buta" hilt...

GANJAWULUNG

Sajen · 2nd June 2010, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Dear All,

Another images of a Palembang keris, but with Cirebonese "buta" hilt. Is is a match pair, a Cirebon hilt on a Palembang keris?

GANJAWULUNG

Hello Pak Ganjawulung,

can you show us a closeup view from the hilt?

Regards,

Detlef

ganjawulung · 3rd June 2010, 04:39 AM

Images of my Cirebon hilt, as requested by Detlef...

GANJAWULUNG

Sajen · 3rd June 2010, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Images of my Cirebon hilt, as requested by Detlef...

GANJAWULUNG

Thank you, very fine and dilly carved hilt and doesn't disturb the overall impression of the ensemble even it is from Cirebon.

2nd June 2010, 02:48 AM	#2
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	And another close up of the hilt and the silver pendokok... GANJAWULUNG Attached Images

2nd June 2010, 05:29 AM	#3
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Another Palembang Keris Dear All, Another images of a Palembang keris, but with Cirebonese "buta" hilt. Is is a match pair, a Cirebon hilt on a Palembang keris? GANJAWULUNG Attached Images

3rd June 2010, 04:39 AM	#7
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Cirebon Hilt (close up) Images of my Cirebon hilt, as requested by Detlef... GANJAWULUNG Attached Images

2nd June 2010, 06:06 AM	#4
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	Dear Pak Ganjawulung, IMHO, Cirebonese hilts are the most flexible. It can match any Javanese blade and Wrangka, or Malay blade and sarung..... even Buginese's.

2nd June 2010, 06:33 AM	#5
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Yes, Penangsang, Agree. If you have a Segaluh keris -- with the specific protruding gandhik with sekar kacang -- it is difficult to get a match pairing with javanese (solonese, or jogjanese) hilt. But almost certain, will match with Cirebon hilt. Especially the "buta" hilt... GANJAWULUNG