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Old 13th October 2025, 02:46 PM   #1
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This came up at auction in the UK recently. I had doubts about it myself as I could not place it so stayed away
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Old 13th October 2025, 07:28 PM   #2
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I had doubts about it myself as I could not place it so stayed away
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Aren't the oddballs not more interesting than the textbook examples? For me for sure!

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Only if the fake shouters and oh its a fit up keep it to themselves.
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Old 13th October 2025, 07:46 PM   #4
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In a honest world I'd go for oddballs for sure. But in a world where dealers and other dodgy folk interfere with pieces to add value and make a quick buck it's a hard no from me I'm afraid. I""ve been burnt before so am not prepared to lose further. Frankenstein pieces don't interest me. Not saying this is one but the jury's out it seems.
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Not saying this is one but the jury's out it seems.
It came to my friend in the shown condition and I trust my friend when he says that it had been "installed" this way for a long time.

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Only if the fake shouters and oh its a fit up keep it to themselves.
Interesting comment. Not sure why you want to stifle opinion and discussion but it seems an odd thing to say.
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Interesting comment. Not sure why you want to stifle opinion and discussion but it seems an odd thing to say.
Agreed!
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This came up at auction in the UK recently. I had doubts about it myself as I could not place it so stayed away
Hi Sid and Tim. I'm not sure we should jump to this item being an attempt to be something it's not or to deceive a prospective buyer. It does appear to be an "odd ball," as Detlef notes. The guard, at least, appears to have been mated to the blade for a long time judging from the junction of the guard with the blade. The hilt could be more recent, and if the pommel is a synthetic material then that raises a question about the age of the grip as well.

Direct inspection means a great deal when trying to ascertain age and authenticity, and if you had doubts about this one from such an inspection then that is important information too.
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Hi Sid and Tim. I'm not sure we should jump to this item being an attempt to be something it's not or to deceive a prospective buyer. It does appear to be an "odd ball," as Detlef notes. The guard, at least, appears to have been mated to the blade for a long time judging from the junction of the guard with the blade. The hilt could be more recent, and if the pommel is a synthetic material then that raises a question about the age

of the grip as well.

Direct inspection means a great deal when trying to ascertain age and authenticity, and if you had doubts about this one from such an inspection then that is important information too.
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All I said was I had my doubts. I did not mention that this sword was put together to deceive etc I could not place it and so stayed away. It might well be a unique gem and that's fine by me.
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