Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > European Armoury
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 19th August 2025, 07:05 PM   #1
Jim McDougall
Arms Historian
 
Jim McDougall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Route 66
Posts: 10,547
Default Neopolitan Schiavona of Third Coalition 1793-1806

This vintage schiavona of early to mid 18th c. I believe is likely one used by an officer of the Third Coalition, and quite possibly of Calabrian regions of Naples. These regions, particularly Reggio Calabria, Scilla, Bagnara and Palmi were fiercely loyal to the Bourbons, and were coastally proximate to the Sicilian coast.

During the turmoil of the French Revolution (1789) and subsequent revolutionary campaigns of Napoleons forces, many are unware of the remarkable scope of these actions, which indeed extended into Italy.

FERDINAND I (1751-1825) was the son of Charles III, and when his father became King of Spain in 1759, a regency was formed placing him as KING FERDINAND IV OF NAPLES and FERDINAND III OF SICILY. He was 8 years old.

In 1767 when he reached majority, he married Maria Carolina of Austria.

In 1793, Maria Carolina brought Naples into Austro-English alliance against the Revolutionary armies.
By 1799 Ferdinand, supported by Horation Nelson's naval force invaded Naples dismantling the French 'Parthenonian Republic'

The THIRD COALITION was formed with UK, Portugal, Holy Roman Empire (Maria Caroline was Austrian), Russia, Sweden, Naples and Sicily.

After Napoleons defeat of Russo-Austrian forces of this coalition in 1805 at Austerlitz, his forces moved through and took over northern Italian states, then on to Naples.

With this, Ferdinand and Maria Caroline were escorted to Sicily by Admiral Nelson, where they remained until Napoleon was defeated in 1815.
On his return to Naples, Ferdinand declared himself King of the Two Sicilies in 1816.However......it was as FERDINAND I !!! of the Two Sicilies (Naples & Sicily).


This is where all this complex geopolitical turbulence and monarchial madness bring the inscription on this blade into a conundrum.

For those of you still holding on:
This is a vintage form of the schiavona, of the trellis forms of c.1700-1740s probably later as newer forms appear around 1760s.

With the contributions of Udo, Keith and Fernando(RIP) these ideas seem compellingly plausible.

Fernando posted a sword, not schiavona, but with the FERDINAND IV OF THE TWO SICILIES etched on the blade. Best of all, a stamped regimental mark shows the sword to ROYAL REGIMENT OF MACEDONIA, which indicates Third Coalition.

It is noted that this regiment was comprised of Albanians and Macedonians. The Calibrian regions regions of Naples were primarily Greek settled, so these groups of course notably present. Again, these people were fiercely loyal to Ferdinand IV (of Naples) as their king. So as Ferdinand IV he was known, and the Sicilian designated title simply incorporated into TWO SICILIES.

My sword and the one posted gratefully by the late Fernando, show that this convention of inscribing blades with FERNANDO IV was indeed in place at the time of the THIRD COALITION.

So it may be presumed this much older schiavona was likely a heirloom, enlisted into service by a Neopolitan officer, most likely Calibrian, in the times and events of the Third Coalition forces c. 1805-06, and the blade etched accordingly in fervent loyalty to their king.
Attached Images
      
Jim McDougall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th August 2025, 07:42 PM   #2
urbanspaceman
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Tyneside. North-East England
Posts: 715
Default Images with dates

Hi Jim. Must declare we have our own Cathey to thank for her very comprehensive visual dating history of schiavonas; look up her article, she posted it on this forum and it is listed in the forum library..
urbanspaceman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th August 2025, 12:15 AM   #3
Jim McDougall
Arms Historian
 
Jim McDougall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Route 66
Posts: 10,547
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by urbanspaceman View Post
Hi Jim. Must declare we have our own Cathey to thank for her very comprehensive visual dating history of schiavonas; look up her article, she posted it on this forum and it is listed in the forum library..
Well noted Keith! Cathey always does superb and detailed research and everything she posts is essential in the archives here.
I think your idea on this schiavona as likely much earlier into 18th century and inscribed later in the time of Ferdinand IV is well . It has become more a question of whether this sword with inscription would fall into the Third Coalition period, and I feel pretty sure it does.

When I got this schiavona years ago I felt disappointed as the Ferdinand IV seemed so late, but now I realize this sword is from a remarkably esoteric sector of the Napoleonic campaigns. I had not realized that the Third Coalition battle at Austerlitz was the first conflict of these campaigns.
We never know what further history is often held in these weapons which would never be realized unless we dig deep enough.
Jim McDougall is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:26 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.