New Kindjals in the Collection

Pitt1999 · 4th August 2025, 01:45 AM

These two pieces came into my collection quite a while ago. I purchased these daggers in the hopes that they would give me more insight into another kindjal I covered before, whose own thread ended with no definitive origin being determined. I will attach a photo of the previously covered dagger first.

They both share interesting characteristics while also being completely different from each other. Both daggers have small "guards" which is an element not often seen on kindjals. They also have tang bands/straps that completely conceal the tang. A more subtle shared element are what I believe are known as "shoulders" on the hilt. On both examples you can see on the hilts just before the guard and ending just before the swell of the pommel are very narrow flat surfaces that terminate in these "shoulders" at either end. How I'm describing them is probably clumsy so they will be pointed out in the photos. This is where the similarities end, however.

The general feel of these two pieces are very different. One example has a comparatively narrow and thick unfullered blade while the other is much more light with a wider, thin, fullered blade. The light one also has interesting hollow tubular pins at the pommel end of the hilt. The light flat blade example I believe to be Greek due to the decoration on the blade. The thick blade piece has a date and some additional markings of unknown meaning on the tang band that remind me of regimental/company designations on military hand weapons.

Any and all insights or comments are welcome!

4th August 2025, 01:45 AM	#1
Pitt1999 Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 109	New Kindjals in the Collection These two pieces came into my collection quite a while ago. I purchased these daggers in the hopes that they would give me more insight into another kindjal I covered before, whose own thread ended with no definitive origin being determined. I will attach a photo of the previously covered dagger first. They both share interesting characteristics while also being completely different from each other. Both daggers have small "guards" which is an element not often seen on kindjals. They also have tang bands/straps that completely conceal the tang. A more subtle shared element are what I believe are known as "shoulders" on the hilt. On both examples you can see on the hilts just before the guard and ending just before the swell of the pommel are very narrow flat surfaces that terminate in these "shoulders" at either end. How I'm describing them is probably clumsy so they will be pointed out in the photos. This is where the similarities end, however. The general feel of these two pieces are very different. One example has a comparatively narrow and thick unfullered blade while the other is much more light with a wider, thin, fullered blade. The light one also has interesting hollow tubular pins at the pommel end of the hilt. The light flat blade example I believe to be Greek due to the decoration on the blade. The thick blade piece has a date and some additional markings of unknown meaning on the tang band that remind me of regimental/company designations on military hand weapons. Any and all insights or comments are welcome! Attached Images