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Old 21st August 2023, 11:22 AM   #1
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Default Decorations on arms of Central Asia

This is what I find to be a brilliant article on the decorative features on arms of Central Asia. I like very much the no-nonsense, pragmatic and scientific approach based on features, not on anecdotal stories.

I believe it can serve as an excellent reference for identifying and classifying Central Asian weapons.

I also believe it was written by a former fellow member, so I am not sure if I am allowed to publish it.

However, since it was openly published as a research project, and it is freely available on the UNESCO website, I assume it is "open source," so just look it up (from page 66 to 96):

https://unesco-iicas.org/press-offic...letin+of+IICAS

the English version at:

https://cloud.mail.ru/public/EZjL/NQRaomQiY

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Old 22nd August 2023, 09:07 PM   #2
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Thank you very much mariusgmioc!

This article is definitely worth checking out! Central Asia is a region whose history of arms and armaments has not yet been sufficiently described. And this article is a hewn stone in the wall of a building being erected.

If it is inconvenient for one of my colleagues to work with the full text of the bulletin, I give a more compact link to the article: https://cloud.mail.ru/public/fKcP/6BZc9mkim
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Old 27th August 2023, 05:31 PM   #3
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Thank you very much mariusgmioc!

This article is definitely worth checking out! Central Asia is a region whose history of arms and armaments has not yet been sufficiently described. And this article is a hewn stone in the wall of a building being erected.

If it is inconvenient for one of my colleagues to work with the full text of the bulletin, I give a more compact link to the article: https://cloud.mail.ru/public/fKcP/6BZc9mkim
Thanks for the information about the article, Marius and Ren Ren. Very interesting article with many new facts.
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I found the article in both English and Russian here:
https://darwinmuseum.academia.edu/DmitryMiloserdov

Good article, I canít find fault with anything, so Iíll just add an interesting fact.
I once researched the origins of this decorative element.
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Old 2nd December 2023, 02:19 PM   #5
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I noticed that such an element was often used to decorate exactly those parts of decorative items that visually correspond to the bolster of a knife, namely: the necks of jugs and teapots, vases and other similar transitional parts.
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My research showed that the starting point was Chinese ceramics of the 14th and 15th centuries, and later porcelain supplied to Iran and beyond. After Iran, this element independently appears in the Deccan and India (not through porcelain), in the Caucasus and in Europe (through porcelain).

Based on this element, ornaments appeared that were also placed along the edge of anything, along the perimeter, etc.
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In the original it is a chrysanthemum
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By the way, one more fact. Quite quickly, real Chinese porcelain began to remain in Iran, and instead, Iranian copies began to be supplied to Europe. But Europe developed its own high art, but Central Asia, after separation from India, did not.
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Mercenary, thank you for sharing your interesting ideas.
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