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Old 3rd June 2018, 05:54 PM   #1
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Default a tribal hunter's belt for identification

in the pockets of this belt an old Peters cartridge dating from the beginning of the 20th century and a what looks like a strange homemade cartridge made of lizard skin?also a qty of crude lead bullet
My with the knife we could identify the origin of this tribal manufacturing belt ?

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Old 4th June 2018, 07:38 AM   #2
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Baoule???
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Old 4th June 2018, 04:27 PM   #3
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The USA shot gun cartridge might suggest an area with greater USA influence than Africa. Possibly the Philippines?
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Old 5th June 2018, 10:49 AM   #4
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what is striking me it is this strange homemade cartridge made with lizard skin
and metal .
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Old 5th June 2018, 11:08 AM   #5
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Could possibly be an old Bedouin piece from the Jordan/Palestine area ?
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Old 9th June 2018, 06:57 PM   #6
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Hi Cerjak

What an interesting belt assembly. And yes, that cartridge is really unusual.
Hmmmm.....Maybe the brass hull and metal were used just to carry powder, or something (?) If it is a live, home-made round, possible used for stunning the target versus killing ? Don't know.
That small bar of what looks like tow for fire starting or use in a muzzle loading gun, is that a lead ball in the bag ?

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Old 9th June 2018, 08:06 PM   #7
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Hi Cerjak

What an interesting belt assembly. And yes, that cartridge is really unusual.
Hmmmm.....Maybe the brass hull and metal were used just to carry powder, or something (?) If it is a live, home-made round, possible used for stunning the target versus killing ? Don't know.
That small bar of what looks like tow for fire starting or use in a muzzle loading gun, is that a lead ball in the bag ?

Rick
Hi RICK

Yes the bag is full of lead ball
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Old 12th June 2018, 09:36 AM   #8
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Since the Pouch is full of lead ball, the whole rig is probably made for shooting a muzzleloader. In that case, the likeliest use for the lizard-skin cartridge is to keep the percussion caps (or some black powder - however, it is more likely this hunter would have stored his powder in a powder horn separate from the rig). The Peter's shotgun shell brass boot is likely the powder measure. Muzzle loaders and cartridge loaders have coexisted, and still do, in many parts of the world.
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Old 12th June 2018, 11:48 AM   #9
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It makes sense .
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