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Old 15th January 2018, 07:14 AM   #1
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Default Minangkabau/Gayo Keris Naga

I hereby enclose pictures of a Minangkabau/Gayo Keris Naga. Can someone attach pictures of other Minangkabau keris with Naga motif for comparison?
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Old 15th January 2018, 07:32 AM   #2
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Old 15th January 2018, 08:16 AM   #3
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Hello Alexish,
This is mine (from the ex-Martin Kerner collection), best regards.
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Old 15th January 2018, 09:23 AM   #4
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Dear Jean,

Can you enclose a blow-up image of the Naga Motif.
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Old 15th January 2018, 10:46 AM   #5
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Here is mine. But never saw it as Gayo. I was told it was a newish production.
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Old 15th January 2018, 11:40 AM   #6
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Here is mine. But never saw it as Gayo. I was told it was a newish production.


Yes Paul, mine is Minang also and from 20th century.
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Old 15th January 2018, 01:29 PM   #7
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Another Example
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Old 15th January 2018, 01:43 PM   #8
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Hello Alexish,
This style of naga seems to be peculiar to the Minangkabau region. I attach an enlarged pic of the sorsoran.
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Old 15th January 2018, 06:48 PM   #9
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Hello Alexish,
Makmur Arts is an antique shop in Bukittinggi which I visited more than 20 years ago, if you are connected to them in any way please be advised that this is against the rules of this Forum.
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Old 15th January 2018, 09:26 PM   #10
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Alexish, do you currently own the keris that you started this thread with or are these photos from an auction site?
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Old 15th January 2018, 11:12 PM   #11
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Dear David,

these photos are from commercial sites, but these items have been confirmed to be sold several years ago. I understand that this would be in compliance with the forum rules.
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In the future please try to remove site names from your images.
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Old 16th January 2018, 01:03 AM   #13
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Apologies. Noted.
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Old 16th January 2018, 01:11 AM   #14
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Default Comparison of Naga Motif between different Keris cultures

I hereby attach images to compare the Minangkabau Keirs Naga motif with the naga motifs of different keris cultures.

I have one question about the last image with the 4 Naga Javanese Keris. Is this a traditional Pakem or a new Kamardikan design?
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Old 16th January 2018, 09:06 AM   #15
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Hello Alexish,
Your naga motif 2 (the 2 pics on the left, old blades) is commonly called "primitif" style in the collectors circles.
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Your naga motif 2 (the 2 pics on the left, old blades) is commonly called "primitif" style in the collectors circles.
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Are these "primitive" style Malay or Javanese?
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Are these "primitive" style Malay or Javanese?


Hello Alexish,
I am not sure but this specific style with a hole under the naga head seems to be Malay/ Sumatrese, see pic. Primitive naga blades are also found in Java with a different style but some of them may not be original (naga head carved later).
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Old 17th January 2018, 02:28 AM   #18
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I am not sure but this specific style with a hole under the naga head seems to be Malay/ Sumatrese, see pic. Primitive naga blades are also found in Java with a different style but some of them may not be original (naga head carved later).
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Dear Jean,

Please see attached image. There seems to be Banjar, Javanese and Pattani versions of this hole motif.
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Old 18th January 2018, 12:13 AM   #19
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Here are some more images of Naga motifs on known Malay blades:
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Old 1st February 2018, 06:08 AM   #20
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Dear fellow collectors,

For your reference, some more pictures of a Bugis Keris Naga.
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