statue for id please

weapons 27 · 18th December 2014, 12:45 PM

could identify you this statue. .it is very heavy black wood, it is 98cm high by 25cm wide.
It is being eroded in many place... It is old, I recovered it in a cellar...
It looks like a dayak drawings I've seen on some shields?
any idea is welcome

weapons 27 · 18th December 2014, 12:46 PM

one photo

VANDOO · 18th December 2014, 11:52 PM

ITS LIKELY TO BE A GUARDIAN STATUE REPRESENTING A POWERFUL ANCESTOR OR SPIRIT. THESE WERE PLACED AT THE ENTRANCES OF VILLAGES OR DWELLINGS TO KEEP EVIL SPIRITS FROM ENTERING. THEY WERE WIDELY USED THRU-OUT POLYNESIA AND MOST OCEANIC ISLAND GROUPS IN VARIOUS FORMS AND DESIGNS. I WOULD GUESS YOUR EXAMPLE TO BE EITHER INDONESIAN OR PERHAPS FROM BORNEO (DAYAK OR BATAK PEOPLES). IN BORNEO THEY ARE REFERRED TO AS HAMPATONGS IN THE WEST OFTEN REFERED TO AS TIKIS.

weapons 27 · 19th December 2014, 06:49 AM

thank vandoo for info

BANDOOK · 19th December 2014, 10:48 AM

HI ITS A CRUDE ANCESTRAL FIGURE,MOSTLY FOR THE TOURIST MARKETS ,LOWER SEPIK REGION,PAPUA NEW GUINEA

David · 19th December 2014, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BANDOOK

HI ITS A CRUDE ANCESTRAL FIGURE,MOSTLY FOR THE TOURIST MARKETS ,LOWER SEPIK REGION,PAPUA NEW GUINEA

I am admittedly no expert on these, however, when i searched out the "real" ancestral figures from this part of the world they are pretty much ALL "crude" carvings. It does seem that they are most often carved of ironwood, so that might be one clue to actual intent. While i do realize that people fake all kinds of things this item at least appears to have spent some real time in the elements as a true ancestral figure would. So i am not yet convinced this is a tourist item. Being a crude carving does not seem to be a sign of fakery with such item though.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hamp...w=1401&bih=838

asomotif · 19th December 2014, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BANDOOK

HI ITS A CRUDE ANCESTRAL FIGURE,MOSTLY FOR THE TOURIST MARKETS ,LOWER SEPIK REGION,PAPUA NEW GUINEA

I see nothing of sepik style in this statue.

18th December 2014, 12:45 PM	#1
weapons 27 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 462	statue for id please could identify you this statue. .it is very heavy black wood, it is 98cm high by 25cm wide. It is being eroded in many place... It is old, I recovered it in a cellar... It looks like a dayak drawings I've seen on some shields? any idea is welcome Attached Images

18th December 2014, 12:46 PM	#2
weapons 27 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 462	one photo Attached Images

19th December 2014, 10:48 AM	#5
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 624	ITS FROM PNG HI ITS A CRUDE ANCESTRAL FIGURE,MOSTLY FOR THE TOURIST MARKETS ,LOWER SEPIK REGION,PAPUA NEW GUINEA

18th December 2014, 11:52 PM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	ITS LIKELY TO BE A GUARDIAN STATUE REPRESENTING A POWERFUL ANCESTOR OR SPIRIT. THESE WERE PLACED AT THE ENTRANCES OF VILLAGES OR DWELLINGS TO KEEP EVIL SPIRITS FROM ENTERING. THEY WERE WIDELY USED THRU-OUT POLYNESIA AND MOST OCEANIC ISLAND GROUPS IN VARIOUS FORMS AND DESIGNS. I WOULD GUESS YOUR EXAMPLE TO BE EITHER INDONESIAN OR PERHAPS FROM BORNEO (DAYAK OR BATAK PEOPLES). IN BORNEO THEY ARE REFERRED TO AS HAMPATONGS IN THE WEST OFTEN REFERED TO AS TIKIS.

19th December 2014, 06:49 AM	#4
weapons 27 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 462	thank vandoo for info