one blade-two patterns

DaveS · 28th November 2013, 04:50 AM

Moro kris with two patterns

Battara · 28th November 2013, 04:59 AM

What a great and fascinating piece!

I love the pommel carving and the styles of the laminations. Rare but not unheard of. On my more recent Moro kris example, the lamination up top is similar but changes into another type down the blade.

Thanks for posting this.

DaveS · 28th November 2013, 06:34 AM

Jose: It is a twist-core on one side, and a linnear pattern on the other side.
Blade is 23 inches long, 29 inches overall. I also have a barong with a
random pattern and a linnear pattern. You can see where both plates
were welded together. I wonder if there are more variations out there.
Dave.

Spunjer · 28th November 2013, 04:25 PM

didn't hit me as twistcore til you mentioned it Dave! Wow, that's different!! i believe the barung with different sides has been posted here before. i can't find it, tho. this kris, i'm assuming they run out of material so they use a different pattern???

nice twistcore btw... need to post more of these twisties

Gavin Nugent · 29th November 2013, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveS

Jose: It is a twist-core on one side, and a linnear pattern on the other side.
Blade is 23 inches long, 29 inches overall. I also have a barong with a
random pattern and a linnear pattern. You can see where both plates
were welded together. I wonder if there are more variations out there.
Dave.

Indeed an unusual sight.

I've seen different patterns on Indian sabres and I have a special one on a Keris but it is the first Moro example I have seen, thanks for posting.

Gavin

kino · 29th November 2013, 05:29 PM

Hey Dave-
I faintly recall you mentioning a Barung with two different patterns on opposing sides.

CharlesS · 29th November 2013, 06:43 PM

Very interesting example. The blade is superb, and like Battara I really like the hilt carving.

I am assuming this is two panels of steel forged together. Very unique and says a lot about the smith not to make a mess of it.

Thanks for posting.

Gustav · 29th November 2013, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlesS

I am assuming this is two panels of steel forged together.

Two twisted bars on one side and one with horizontal layers on the other of the core.

Besides a very rare pattern also beautifully carved details at the base of blade. Would it be possible to see the whole blade from both sides?

DaveS · 30th November 2013, 05:07 AM

Gustav: When i get a chance next week i'll post pictures of both sides of
This blade.
Albert: That double patterned barong that you mentioned is on the big
board that i take to the Oregon Show. It had a few rust marks on
it so i took it off and gave it a fresh etch. I can't remember you
posting it for me so maybe i will try to do it next week also...Dave

DaveS · 30th November 2013, 05:21 AM

Charles: While i'm not a bladesmith i think this has to be two different
plates welded together so when the edge is sharpened the weld-
line disappears, wereas on the top edge of the barong you can
clearly see a weld-line. I keep thinking i have another kris with
two patterns somewhere in our collection. if i can hunt it up i'll
try and post some pictures.........Dave

28th November 2013, 04:50 AM	#1
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	one blade-two patterns Moro kris with two patterns Attached Images

28th November 2013, 06:34 AM	#3
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	One blade-two patterns Jose: It is a twist-core on one side, and a linnear pattern on the other side. Blade is 23 inches long, 29 inches overall. I also have a barong with a random pattern and a linnear pattern. You can see where both plates were welded together. I wonder if there are more variations out there. Dave.

30th November 2013, 05:07 AM	#9
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	one blade-two patterns Gustav: When i get a chance next week i'll post pictures of both sides of This blade. Albert: That double patterned barong that you mentioned is on the big board that i take to the Oregon Show. It had a few rust marks on it so i took it off and gave it a fresh etch. I can't remember you posting it for me so maybe i will try to do it next week also...Dave

30th November 2013, 05:21 AM	#10
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	one blade-two patterns Charles: While i'm not a bladesmith i think this has to be two different plates welded together so when the edge is sharpened the weld- line disappears, wereas on the top edge of the barong you can clearly see a weld-line. I keep thinking i have another kris with two patterns somewhere in our collection. if i can hunt it up i'll try and post some pictures.........Dave

28th November 2013, 04:59 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	What a great and fascinating piece! I love the pommel carving and the styles of the laminations. Rare but not unheard of. On my more recent Moro kris example, the lamination up top is similar but changes into another type down the blade. Thanks for posting this.

28th November 2013, 04:25 PM	#4
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	didn't hit me as twistcore til you mentioned it Dave! Wow, that's different!! i believe the barung with different sides has been posted here before. i can't find it, tho. this kris, i'm assuming they run out of material so they use a different pattern??? nice twistcore btw... need to post more of these twisties

29th November 2013, 05:29 PM	#6
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 973	Hey Dave- I faintly recall you mentioning a Barung with two different patterns on opposing sides.

29th November 2013, 06:43 PM	#7
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,855	Very interesting example. The blade is superb, and like Battara I really like the hilt carving. I am assuming this is two panels of steel forged together. Very unique and says a lot about the smith not to make a mess of it. Thanks for posting.