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Hi all,
I got this khanjar this week. Pretty cool piece, well made and all with a decent blade. I am though alittle confused regarding hilt material. Thought at first its plastic or bakelite but gave it a hot needle test and it smelt like hair. |
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Wrong place. Can you move it please? xD
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Just as you asked
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Salaams A.alnakkas ~ Yours is a good example of the Jizzan Saudia weapon....actually Im not at all sure what that is called... Khanjar or Janbiyya ? The material of the hilt is also interesting and I wonder if it is Giraffe ? as opposed to Zraff (wahid al garn) Rhino. Could it be amber? Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. |
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Hi Lotfi
as far as I know, for me it's Saudi, and a beautiful one ![]() mabrouk Bro. all the best à + Dom |
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Any idea whats the material? |
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The hilt appears a reconstituted material, whatever its origins... Not the fantasy of Giraffe though...
Ive found Plastic is common in the so called "Amber" hillted pieces sold by all the top dealers we know & love... ![]() Spiral |
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Hi Lotfy,
Like Spiral, I was also thinking along the lines of some kind of processed/resin/composite type material. These faux-rhino 'amber' substitute hilt materials have to be a step in the right direction. Anything is preferable to the loss of Rhinos. I've often thought that with the explosion of cheap stone carving in China in recent years, semi precious stone hilts would be a fantastic and cost effective modern option. Imagine a Khanjar with a jadeite or Nephrite hilt! ![]() Last edited by Atlantia; 29th November 2012 at 01:41 PM. |
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Salaams Spiral ~ It is an interesting point... "The Fantasy of Giraffe" .. For those not in on the subject Zraff is the common term both in Oman and Yemen for Rhino. (Though in Yemen there are also several other names depending on the grade/age of the horn) I recall searching on and off for many years for the Giraffe alternative and imagined hoof as well as horn from the Giraffes head as being used for some hilts. To date I have never seen a Giraffe horn hilt and like you I suspect it was all a play on words. On the subject of the Jizzan Saudia weapon (though in fact when this weapon was born sometime after about 1840 derived from the Omani Royal Khanjar style invented by Sheherazad wife of the Saaid Sultan it was Yemen but annexed in the early 20thC by Saudia) Thinking aloud ~I suspected amber(ar. anbar) or composite... ~ It has the colour of Yemeni amber. When it burns (hot pin test) I imagine it is quite pungent. The only other thing I know about amber is that it floats...not a practical test on hilts clad in silver etc. T Koch ~ ah well there is the giraffes head... I never saw a giraffe skull before.. The weapon belongs to Al Nakas as does the thread... ![]() So what is it ? I am going to make a bold opinion having been over the pictures with a magnifier and say this is in fact Rhino. Check the entire left half of the main expanded picture and you will see the spagghetti form of Rhino Horn ('Wahid al Garn' or Z'raff) ... Its Rhino which is common in Al JAZZAN HILTS and burns with the smell of hair. ![]() Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 29th November 2012 at 03:58 PM. |
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our friend "spiral" is on the good track: - hilt appears a reconstituted material - I've found Plastic is common in the so called "Amber" I gave on past the indication about "Karaman" (false amber) kind of Bakelite (Ottoman) - karaman - faturan http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showt...ghlight=karaman à + Dom |
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I dont think Giraffe horn was ever used for hilting. Amber is a possiblity, does it burn and smells like hair though? |
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