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Old 6th June 2012, 02:42 PM   #1
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Hello everybody!
This is my last adquisition, a beatiful dagger with this measurement.
Size/Measurements: (approximate)
9-5/8" total length
6-1/8" blade length
5/8" blade width
Seems From Philippines, maybe horn and silver? I hope so!!
Opinions are welcome
Thanks in advance

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Old 6th June 2012, 03:46 PM   #2
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What a beauty!
Where's Robert?
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Old 6th June 2012, 05:49 PM   #3
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Yup! Looks northern Philippines to me in horn and silver. Looks to be around the turn of the 20th century and perhaps belonged to someone of status, like an officer or something. 1st Philippine republic.

Nice piece and congratulations!

Only thing is the nut at the butt is not original of course.
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Old 6th June 2012, 09:00 PM   #4
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Hello Carlos and congratulations on your new Philippine dagger. I totally agree with Jose on its age. I was also watching this item but was leery of bidding on it because of the poor picture quality and high starting price. In the pictures it looks like there could be what looks like a lot of epoxy residue on the hilt as if it was damaged and some repair work might have been done. Also the strange staining on the back side of the guard might be either oxidation, possibly peeling of plating or if it is plated where the plating has worn through. I'm hoping it is just oxidation. When it arrives clean the grooves in the hilt and I think you might be surprised and could find silver bands running in them. The shape of the grooves and the horn plugs at their ends indicate that there is a very good possibility that at one time it did have these and somewhere under the grunge they are still there and intact. Again my congratulations on your new addition and please let us know what you find when it arrives.


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Old 7th June 2012, 01:52 AM   #5
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I was watching that one but the nut is not original and there was no scabbard Still a very nice early example.

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Old 7th June 2012, 02:00 AM   #6
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Very nice example, but I echo lew's statement, that it doesn't have a scabbard and the nut at the buttend is not original..... So you're better off sending it over to me

No?

Okay, it was worth a shot
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Old 8th June 2012, 03:16 PM   #7
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Thanks all for your answers!!! I had doubts to bid or not, finally I didnīt bid adn after that I saw the auction relisted, to 99 $ buy it now and I bought it.
When arrived I will post more pictures

Thanks again
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Old 8th June 2012, 04:09 PM   #8
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As I said it is a nice piece. Robert is right - the silver strip in the hilt needs to be polished to see it and the end needs a silver screw in cap.

You got it at a great buy.

One other thing - I doubt there is any silver plating on it.
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Old 10th June 2012, 12:39 AM   #9
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Default Katipunan Officer's Dagger

For comparison, here is a very similar knife in my collection, a Katipunan Officer's Dagger, probably from the Batangas region of the Philippines, circa revolution of 1889-1902. Unlike the officers who carried blades of this type, rank and file members of Katipuna typically carried a bolo tabak (machete).

This knife is 14 inches in overall length. The diamond cross-section blade is 9.5 inches long. Brass guard. The dark hilt is turned kamagong or carabao horn and inlaid with twisted brass wire. The scabbard is leather, in fine condition, with silver mounts.
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Old 10th June 2012, 08:21 AM   #10
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Unlike the officers who carried blades of this type, rank and file members of Katipuna typically carried a bolo tabak (machete).


Hello Dave,

since you seems to be sure about this I think you have seen a picture or more where you can see this. Can you post this picture?

Regards,

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