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Old 3rd April 2012, 09:18 PM   #1
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Default Kilij.

Another of my bargain box pieces. Most stuff I get my hands on, I have a good idea of provinance and date, but the odd item I would really like input from someone better informed than myself. This is a Kilij, but from where?
Full tang, horn grip scales held by a concealed pin. Multi fullered blade with differing numbers of, as they go up the blade. Yelman, and so a kilij rather than a shamshir. The blade is quite light in weight, and I think a plain steel rather than anything patterned.
Alas the guard is missing, and the scabbard reduced to a stripped core, all metal gone.
Comments and suggestions welcomed and indeed invited. Pardon the photo's, I do my best.
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Old 6th April 2012, 10:52 PM   #2
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More info on the sword if that helps.
Blade length 79cm, 31 inches. Grip/hilt length 13cm or 5 inches, measurements taken from/to the point where the horn grip ends, an area showing remains of resin used to secure the guard, blade width 3.15 cm or 1.2 inches, thickness just over 4 mill, or about an eighth of an inch.
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Old 10th April 2012, 12:15 AM   #3
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David,

Sorry nobody has responded. Yes, this is the Ottoman sword that we collectors like to call kilij, after the Turkish word for sword.

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Old 10th April 2012, 04:25 PM   #4
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Interesting piece. This type is sometimes identified as naval saber, possibly Greek.
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Old 10th April 2012, 05:21 PM   #5
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in my opinion the blade is ottoman , it is a very nice blade congratualtion.
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Old 14th April 2012, 02:35 PM   #6
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These straight-bladed swords were used in Ottoman Navy
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Old 14th April 2012, 04:30 PM   #7
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Thanks everyone. There seems to be a concensus that it is Ottoman Navy, which makes it for me an even more interesting sword. Also gives me a direction for my next search, which is what style of guard it would have had.
I had wondered if it was Central Asian, because of the multi fullering, but the grip style and lack of curvature did not fit with that idea.
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Old 15th April 2012, 07:02 PM   #8
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David,

The crossguard should look something like this one:

http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=3925
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Old 16th April 2012, 12:31 AM   #9
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Thankyou.
That guard is quite a bit different to the normal ones you see, I shall have to see what I can make.
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