Help with determining musket lockplate

Hérésie · 6th January 2016, 03:14 PM

Hi all,

I would like to ask your help identifying a brass lockplate, probably of around 1600. I have spent many hours looking for parallells, but I do not manage to find out.

The first picture shows my own piece; the second picture is from the Guns Wikia page, but there no additional information other than 'snapping matchlock' is indicated.

Does any of you recognize this piece, and in first instance which type of lock it is?

Any help would be much appreciated!

Happy newyear!

fernando · 6th January 2016, 10:26 PM

Welcome to the forum, Hérésie.
Let us see what the members familiar with this area this say about it.
Say, could you post further pictures, like one of the outer part ?

Marcus den toom · 7th January 2016, 11:47 AM

Hi Hérésie,

Not an expert perse, but are you sure this is indeed brass and not plated iron? Please do indeed post more pictures of this piece.

As far as i kknow there is no similar piece of European make. In the collection of our late friend Michael Trömner there are a few snapping match/tinderlocks and he provided alot of additional information as well. Still i can not find anything similar with that kind of roll up spring.

post 5:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ass+tinderlock

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ass+tinderlock
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7138
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...snap+matchlock

post 24
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ass+tinderlock

post 22
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...snap+matchlock

corrado26 · 9th January 2016, 05:22 PM

This roll up springs are normally typical for Japanese guns and pistols with matchlock or percussion lock.
corrado26

6th January 2016, 03:14 PM	#1
Hérésie Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 1	Help with determining musket lockplate Hi all, I would like to ask your help identifying a brass lockplate, probably of around 1600. I have spent many hours looking for parallells, but I do not manage to find out. The first picture shows my own piece; the second picture is from the Guns Wikia page, but there no additional information other than 'snapping matchlock' is indicated. Does any of you recognize this piece, and in first instance which type of lock it is? Any help would be much appreciated! Happy newyear! Attached Images

6th January 2016, 10:26 PM	#2
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	Welcome to the forum, Hérésie. Let us see what the members familiar with this area this say about it. Say, could you post further pictures, like one of the outer part ?

7th January 2016, 11:47 AM	#3
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 494	Hi Hérésie, Not an expert perse, but are you sure this is indeed brass and not plated iron? Please do indeed post more pictures of this piece. As far as i kknow there is no similar piece of European make. In the collection of our late friend Michael Trömner there are a few snapping match/tinderlocks and he provided alot of additional information as well. Still i can not find anything similar with that kind of roll up spring. post 5: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ass+tinderlock http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ass+tinderlock http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7138 http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...snap+matchlock post 24 http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ass+tinderlock post 22 http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...snap+matchlock

9th January 2016, 05:22 PM	#4
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,170	This roll up springs are normally typical for Japanese guns and pistols with matchlock or percussion lock. corrado26