Dapur of this Javanese keris?

BluErf · 8th April 2010, 02:24 PM

Thanks Alan, Ganjawulung for spending time on this keris.

Just to share a bit more on what I heard about the origin of this keris. This was given to a Singaporean who had helped build a new Mosque for a village in Java. The village headman gave this and another keris as a token of appreciation to the person, and he kept them for many years until a couple of years ago when he decided to sell them. Hence, what Alan has said about kerises being made by pandai away from the centres of power could be quite applicable in this case.

ganjawulung · 8th April 2010, 09:27 PM

You're welcome, Kai Wee,
Interesting origin. And after I took a long time on looking at the picture of your blade, personally I like very much the style of your keris' peculiar luks. (a pity, the notches on the wadidang). The blade seems to begin with straight blade, but then ended with artistic luks... Contrary to Megantara, which begins with luks but ends with straight tip... That's my very personal view. It reminds me to another dhapur which has quite similar luks -- Murma Malela... (Once I had, but 'moved' already). Begins as if straight blade, but ended in such peculiar luks. Only, Murma Malela with sekar kacang and nine luks... with one jalen and two lambe gajah and pejetan... Once again, that is my personal view...

Thanks, Kai Wee
GANJAWULUNG

BluErf · 9th April 2010, 03:50 PM

Yes, the way the luks were executed was what caught my attention. It was inspired, in my opinion. The blade is very thick, but not heavy. It's ada-ada can be compared to a Bugis keris', but it is no where as broad. And the next thing that caught my attention was how compact the forging was. Finally, the light wafting scent of incense made itself felt, and that was the last straw that made me buy it.

I hear that the owner never oiled it since he got the keris, and I'm equally amazed to find that the keris had no rust on it...

ganjawulung · 10th April 2010, 02:37 AM

Similar reason did happen to me to buy this peculiar tombak (the picture below is just for comparison, I don't mean to alter this topic to other weapon than keris. Pls David, Rick, I apologize for it...) -- I was caught to the way the empu or tombak maker, whatever, executed the luks. As if straight tombak, then luks, and ends with almost straight tip...
Sarpa nyander? Or sarpa lumaku kind of luks? Whatever... Difficult to express in words.
On certain scent of old blades -- I've tried to make by myself such scent on blades, but never succeed -- also still mysterious, how did they made such long lasting scent such this. Was it oil scent? Or "dupa" scent?

GANJAWULUNG

10th April 2010, 02:37 AM	#4
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Similar reason did happen to me to buy this peculiar tombak (the picture below is just for comparison, I don't mean to alter this topic to other weapon than keris. Pls David, Rick, I apologize for it...) -- I was caught to the way the empu or tombak maker, whatever, executed the luks. As if straight tombak, then luks, and ends with almost straight tip... Sarpa nyander? Or sarpa lumaku kind of luks? Whatever... Difficult to express in words. On certain scent of old blades -- I've tried to make by myself such scent on blades, but never succeed -- also still mysterious, how did they made such long lasting scent such this. Was it oil scent? Or "dupa" scent? GANJAWULUNG Attached Images

8th April 2010, 02:24 PM	#1
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Thanks Alan, Ganjawulung for spending time on this keris. Just to share a bit more on what I heard about the origin of this keris. This was given to a Singaporean who had helped build a new Mosque for a village in Java. The village headman gave this and another keris as a token of appreciation to the person, and he kept them for many years until a couple of years ago when he decided to sell them. Hence, what Alan has said about kerises being made by pandai away from the centres of power could be quite applicable in this case.

8th April 2010, 09:27 PM	#2
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	You're welcome, Kai Wee, Interesting origin. And after I took a long time on looking at the picture of your blade, personally I like very much the style of your keris' peculiar luks. (a pity, the notches on the wadidang). The blade seems to begin with straight blade, but then ended with artistic luks... Contrary to Megantara, which begins with luks but ends with straight tip... That's my very personal view. It reminds me to another dhapur which has quite similar luks -- Murma Malela... (Once I had, but 'moved' already). Begins as if straight blade, but ended in such peculiar luks. Only, Murma Malela with sekar kacang and nine luks... with one jalen and two lambe gajah and pejetan... Once again, that is my personal view... Thanks, Kai Wee GANJAWULUNG

9th April 2010, 03:50 PM	#3
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Yes, the way the luks were executed was what caught my attention. It was inspired, in my opinion. The blade is very thick, but not heavy. It's ada-ada can be compared to a Bugis keris', but it is no where as broad. And the next thing that caught my attention was how compact the forging was. Finally, the light wafting scent of incense made itself felt, and that was the last straw that made me buy it. I hear that the owner never oiled it since he got the keris, and I'm equally amazed to find that the keris had no rust on it...