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Old 7th April 2010, 12:03 AM   #1
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Nathaniel,
Thats a lovely blade. I've used it as a guide and somewhat straightened the tang on mine (to approximately the same angle).

I do agree with you and Gav that it looks great displayed as you have it.....
But doesn't part of you want to feel the balance with the handle restored?
Swing it around... just a little bit?

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Go for it Gene, afterall these are just personal opinions and the item is yours.
I'd suggest asking others about using a resin to secure the handle that will keep it tight abnd secure and something that could be heated and removed should you ever desire to display it in the raw again.

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Old 7th April 2010, 07:49 PM   #2
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Go for it Gene, afterall these are just personal opinions and the item is yours.
I'd suggest asking others about using a resin to secure the handle that will keep it tight abnd secure and something that could be heated and removed should you ever desire to display it in the raw again.

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Thats a good idea mate. Something non-permenant.
I've done a light etch, there are clear lamination lines and what looks to be a hardened edge. Can you have a looksee please? (and all other comments are welcome too)





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Old 7th April 2010, 11:35 PM   #3
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lovely historic blade Atlantia with a clearly tempered edge & some lamination near the edge as well, I expect the patterns could be brought out further to show whether its an inserted laminated edge with softer backning envelope or not. That would be my guess based on the current photos.

This thread shows a later possible related British Indian army style.{or not as the case may be.} that may or may not be of intrest.

linky....

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Old 8th April 2010, 12:34 AM   #4
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Gene,

You did a great job...beautiful blade! Look at the brass inlaid along the spine...and now we can see the pattern on the back of the blade...what struck me is how it reminded me of my village Kukri...definitely supports what Gavin & James where saying above about the Kukri influence...you see in Burmese martial art, Bando, they use the Kukri...Burmese language is related to Tibetan and also influenced by Chinese....







As far as where or not to mount the blade...why not? As Gavin said, I would make sure you consult on how to do it and undo it. As far as a handle type...well, can't go too wrong...looking at knives in SEA, there is such a variety in handle type.

Spiral...thanks for the links...now I see I pulled that one photo from Puff's post!


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Old 8th April 2010, 10:21 AM   #5
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For this type of tang (push tang), you may use a piece of wood as hilt with a pipe clamp as a secure ferrule.

Some of makers here use this temporary hilt for checking their blade performance and balance.



The hilt were later replaced with the real one.


The recurved knives in Nathaniel's comment are Siamese, C17-C18. They were called Dao Ngum (recurved Dao sword). This might give you a hint of their Chinese origin . By the way, Dao and Dahb are interchangeable Siamese terms for backsword.

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Very pretty blade Atlantia. I'm so glad you polished and etched it. The "soul" of the blade is now visible.
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Old 9th April 2010, 09:19 AM   #7
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You've done very nicely for this blade. If you make it a handle and sheath it will be happy; ready to live.
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Old 9th April 2010, 08:36 PM   #8
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Very pretty blade Atlantia. I'm so glad you polished and etched it. The "soul" of the blade is now visible.
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Hi Steve,

Thanks very much!
LOL, we speak the same language I think!

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For this type of tang (push tang), you may use a piece of wood as hilt with a pipe clamp as a secure ferrule.

Some of makers here use this temporary hilt for checking their blade performance and balance.



The hilt were later replaced with the real one.


The recurved knives in Nathaniel's comment are Siamese, C17-C18. They were called Dao Ngum (recurved Dao sword). This might give you a hint of their Chinese origin . By the way, Dao and Dahb are interchangeable Siamese terms for backsword.
Hi PUFF,

Thanks for your help
Thats a great way to size the handle perfectly, thanks.
Can you help with any more information about the blade that I have?
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Old 9th April 2010, 07:56 PM   #10
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Gene,

You did a great job...beautiful blade! Look at the brass inlaid along the spine...and now we can see the pattern on the back of the blade...what struck me is how it reminded me of my village Kukri...definitely supports what Gavin & James where saying above about the Kukri influence...you see in Burmese martial art, Bando, they use the Kukri...Burmese language is related to Tibetan and also influenced by Chinese....




As far as where or not to mount the blade...why not? As Gavin said, I would make sure you consult on how to do it and undo it. As far as a handle type...well, can't go too wrong...looking at knives in SEA, there is such a variety in handle type.

Spiral...thanks for the links...now I see I pulled that one photo from Puff's post!

Thats a really nice Kuk!!
Whats the overall length?
Are you tempted to etch the blade? I'd have thought that was a prime candidate for some hidden treasures!
I love the decoration on it, reminds me of Xmas tinsel and garlands
In a nice way of course!

And thanks for the kind comments
As for the handle on the 'Mead'... Thats the beauty isn't it I'm kind of leaning towards a stag-horn carving like Chegru has (the 'What a Dha' thread).
I've got to look in the shed as I've got a few really old stag horns.
What are the chances I'll have a long enough straight-ish section?

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Old 10th April 2010, 12:00 AM   #11
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Thats a really nice Kuk!!
Whats the overall length?
Are you tempted to etch the blade? I'd have thought that was a prime candidate for some hidden treasures!
I love the decoration on it, reminds me of Xmas tinsel and garlands
In a nice way of course!

And thanks for the kind comments
As for the handle on the 'Mead'... Thats the beauty isn't it I'm kind of leaning towards a stag-horn carving like Chegru has (the 'What a Dha' thread).
I've got to look in the shed as I've got a few really old stag horns.
What are the chances I'll have a long enough straight-ish section?

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Gene

Thanks Gene,

Here are the specs:

Blade is 41cm
Total length is 54cm

Spine thickness at the handle is 8mm

Similar to one of the knives carried by Nepal's Prime Minister Shree Tin Chandra Samsher

I actually have this one available on the Swap Forum...but no interest shown....

It's a very heavy duty piece as you can see by the specs...
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Old 9th April 2010, 08:11 PM   #12
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lovely historic blade Atlantia with a clearly tempered edge & some lamination near the edge as well, I expect the patterns could be brought out further to show whether its an inserted laminated edge with softer backning envelope or not. That would be my guess based on the current photos.

This thread shows a later possible related British Indian army style.{or not as the case may be.} that may or may not be of intrest.

linky....

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Hi Spiral.

Thank you very much. The blade seems to have more obvious laminations towards the edge, but there are laminations visible (fainter) across the entire surface.
The edge looks almost like a Hamon line, is it produced in a similar way?

Thats an interesting link!!, I wasn't familiar with that knife. I'd rather like one muyself!!

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