keris melayu for comment

BluErf · 27th March 2010, 03:27 AM

Hmm... the taller ganja is one thing, but the way protrudes out and its prominence looked more Kelantanese to me, but must admit, this is a bit grey. I guess without the hilt, it is a bit difficult to tell the point of origin as well.

hanggoye · 27th March 2010, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BluErf

Hmm... the taller ganja is one thing, but the way protrudes out and its prominence looked more Kelantanese to me, but must admit, this is a bit grey. I guess without the hilt, it is a bit difficult to tell the point of origin as well.

the hilt for this blade is pekaka type and from "akar bahar(i dont know what we call this in english)" and the pedokok is from suasa if i not mistaken.. the previous owner doesn't want to sell the pedokok to me but the hilt i will post it when i get it next week..

BluErf · 27th March 2010, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by hanggoye

the hilt for this blade is pekaka type and from "akar bahar(i dont know what we call this in english)" and the pedokok is from suasa if i not mistaken.. the previous owner doesn't want to sell the pedokok to me but the hilt i will post it when i get it next week..

Akar bahar is black coral. Very precious material for keris hilt.

hmmm... too bad he wouldn't sell the pendoko. The 2 will really make a statement together.

khalifah muda · 30th March 2010, 07:30 AM

Akar bahar in White or Red or Black?
FYI, In english would be White Coral or Black Coral or Red Coral.

Both Kelantanese or Pattani do use this media for making hilts. But it is often to see Kelantan pieces with coral hilts.

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Originally Posted by hanggoye

the hilt for this blade is pekaka type and from "akar bahar(i dont know what we call this in english)" and the pedokok is from suasa if i not mistaken.. the previous owner doesn't want to sell the pedokok to me but the hilt i will post it when i get it next week..

David · 30th March 2010, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by khalifah muda

Akar bahar in White or Red or Black?
FYI, In english would be White Coral or Black Coral or Red Coral.
Both Kelantanese or Pattani do use this media for making hilts. But it is often to see Kelantan pieces with coral hilts.

Often? Really? Does this mean that you have numerous examples to show us?

David · 27th March 2010, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BluErf

Hmm... the taller ganja is one thing, but the way protrudes out and its prominence looked more Kelantanese to me, but must admit, this is a bit grey. I guess without the hilt, it is a bit difficult to tell the point of origin as well.

Could the hilt being with this blade really help to nail the origin of the blade if we have no provenance that the hilt is original to the blade?

BluErf · 27th March 2010, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by David

Could the hilt being with this blade really help to nail the origin of the blade if we have no provenance that the hilt is original to the blade?

Well, we live with uncertainty in the world of keris collecting

The hilt does help a bit. If the hilt goes with the sheath, it would be easier to help with identification. If the hilt is obviously not fitting or appropriate, then we would have to discount it. A lot of ifs actually.

BluErf · 27th March 2010, 05:26 AM

Sorry to be a bother, but can we see the front of the sampir please.

tks!

27th March 2010, 03:27 AM	#1
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hmm... the taller ganja is one thing, but the way protrudes out and its prominence looked more Kelantanese to me, but must admit, this is a bit grey. I guess without the hilt, it is a bit difficult to tell the point of origin as well.

27th March 2010, 05:26 AM	#8
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Sorry to be a bother, but can we see the front of the sampir please. tks!