WHICH SUNDANG?

Alam Shah · 20th March 2010, 06:12 AM

Interesting discussion..

Pak Ganja, the blade looks like there's some age to it but not too old.. I like the upper half on the blade, but the base area.. are a lot off. It might be in a simpler form initially before its transformation. The 'greneng' area seems like drilled holes to me.. 10 number on the greneng area and 3 numbers on the 'kembang kacang' area to form the 'jenggot'.. the gandik area seems re-worked, (to me anyway).

Alan's questions and my answers..
1) what style is followed by the ricikan of this blade?
- no idea. Not from the Northern Malay states (Terengganu, Kelantan, Pattani), not Moro, not Sulu..

2) is the erosion of the greneng in harmony with the erosion shown between pamor and the steel core?
-no, imho..

3) what method was used to produce the greneng?
- a power drill (?)..

4) does filler exist between the gonjo and the blade?
- not that I can see, (from the photos)..

5) where do we find this particular pamor very frequently used?
- hmmm.. not Moro, afaik.. for Malay sundangs, I've yet to see this form. Most Borneo sundangs, have broader width and it's blade texture are mostly similar to Moro's.. afaik.

6) why do we find this blade in a poorly made Javanese scabbard and with a pedang handle?
- good question.. fittings done in Indonesia(?).. handle mix-n-match(?)..

20th March 2010, 06:12 AM	#9
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Interesting discussion.. Pak Ganja, the blade looks like there's some age to it but not too old.. I like the upper half on the blade, but the base area.. are a lot off. It might be in a simpler form initially before its transformation. The 'greneng' area seems like drilled holes to me.. 10 number on the greneng area and 3 numbers on the 'kembang kacang' area to form the 'jenggot'.. the gandik area seems re-worked, (to me anyway). Alan's questions and my answers.. 1) what style is followed by the ricikan of this blade? - no idea. Not from the Northern Malay states (Terengganu, Kelantan, Pattani), not Moro, not Sulu.. 2) is the erosion of the greneng in harmony with the erosion shown between pamor and the steel core? -no, imho.. 3) what method was used to produce the greneng? - a power drill (?).. 4) does filler exist between the gonjo and the blade? - not that I can see, (from the photos).. 5) where do we find this particular pamor very frequently used? - hmmm.. not Moro, afaik.. for Malay sundangs, I've yet to see this form. Most Borneo sundangs, have broader width and it's blade texture are mostly similar to Moro's.. afaik. 6) why do we find this blade in a poorly made Javanese scabbard and with a pedang handle? - good question.. fittings done in Indonesia(?).. handle mix-n-match(?).. Last edited by Alam Shah; 20th March 2010 at 06:48 AM.