Malay (?) keris from Ebay

BluErf · 14th March 2010, 11:35 AM

This has to be Terengganu. All parts of it.

Almost a brother to one of my kerises, except that the blade is a sepokal.

Gustav · 14th March 2010, 12:22 PM

just for comparison.

David · 14th March 2010, 06:44 PM

Thank you Alan and Kai Wee for your responses. Terengganu is where i had thought this keris was from, but when Alan expressed that respected people on this subject had suggested to him that this kind of topographic relief pamor is virtually unknown from this area it raised a serious question with me about it's origin. Ultimately where it is from would not effect my liking for this keris, but it is an important piece of information that i would like to have correct about any keris i own if possible.

Gustav · 14th March 2010, 07:32 PM

File marks seem also to be not unusual, becouse of the resharpening praktice.

David · 14th March 2010, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustav

File marks seem also to be not unusual, becouse of the resharpening praktice.

I am not aware of any resharpening practice. Can you elaborate?

Gustav · 15th March 2010, 09:54 AM

As I understand it, in bugis influenced regions some value is put also on the sharpness of the edges, so the blades were sometimes resharpened. I mean, I can see some resharpening (or file) work also on your blade.

Anybody please correct me, if this is wrong.

Gustav · 15th March 2010, 11:45 PM

Has anybody seen this one alive? Is this a documentated sundang? If yes, what about the age of fittings? It seems to have a sheath mouth from other material.

The other one (excuse me please for using your picture, VVV) also.

David · 16th March 2010, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustav

As I understand it, in bugis influenced regions some value is put also on the sharpness of the edges, so the blades were sometimes resharpened. I mean, I can see some resharpening (or file) work also on your blade.

Anybody please correct me, if this is wrong.

I could be wrong, but i think any file marks that may be visible were part of the origin shaping of this keris.

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15th March 2010, 11:45 PM	#7
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,295	Has anybody seen this one alive? Is this a documentated sundang? If yes, what about the age of fittings? It seems to have a sheath mouth from other material. The other one (excuse me please for using your picture, VVV) also. Attached Images Last edited by Gustav; 16th March 2010 at 12:14 AM.

14th March 2010, 11:35 AM	#1
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	This has to be Terengganu. All parts of it. Almost a brother to one of my kerises, except that the blade is a sepokal.

14th March 2010, 06:44 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,237	Thank you Alan and Kai Wee for your responses. Terengganu is where i had thought this keris was from, but when Alan expressed that respected people on this subject had suggested to him that this kind of topographic relief pamor is virtually unknown from this area it raised a serious question with me about it's origin. Ultimately where it is from would not effect my liking for this keris, but it is an important piece of information that i would like to have correct about any keris i own if possible.

15th March 2010, 09:54 AM	#6
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,295	As I understand it, in bugis influenced regions some value is put also on the sharpness of the edges, so the blades were sometimes resharpened. I mean, I can see some resharpening (or file) work also on your blade. Anybody please correct me, if this is wrong.