Kerises in different cultural spheres

kronckew · 3rd March 2010, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BluErf

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If the keris were to have developed in Scandinavia, I bet it would likely have fur-coated sheaths

i have a malay/indonesian pirate klewang in a fur-coated sheath. of course most of the fur has worn off now.

and david, one of the most expensive coffees comes from there, apparently they get a civert cat to eat the coffee fruits, and it poops out the beans and they charge a small fortune for them (kopi luwak). supposedly tastes heavenly, but as i've never had the pleasure, maybe some one else can comment

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p.s. - from the reference wiki article in the para. above, kopi muncak may be possible here, we have a number of muntjac deer in residence on the neighbourhood farms where i walk the greyhounds, i'll have to leave out some unroasted coffee beans hidden in some fruit and see what happens. Kopi manusia is another possibility

David · 3rd March 2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

and david, one of the most expensive coffees comes from there, apparently they get a civert cat to eat the coffee fruits, and it poops out the beans and they charge a small fortune for them (kopi luwak). supposedly tastes heavenly, but as i've never had the pleasure, maybe some one else can comment

Yes Kronckew. i used to sell coffee for a living so i am aware of this special brew. I haven't had the pleasure yet either...

kronckew · 3rd March 2010, 04:25 PM

one of my favourite stores in al khobar, KSA was the coffee store, it had bags and bags of beans on display in a rather large room of all different beans and roasts, you'd tell them which beans, which roast and how much of each and what kind of coffee maker you used and they'd grind them right in front of you.

i'd buy a kilo at a time of arabica in a half and half mix of 'italian' roast (darkest) and 'american' roast (kinda medium-dark). they did their own roasting. wonderful smelling store. wonderful coffee. much better than the pre-ground common muck you get in supermarkets.

i occasionally buy a bag of 'specialty' coffee beans at the local costa coffee bar and grind them myself. beans and ground coffee get put in the freezer till used to keep the flavour in. i use one of the french press coffee things, never a percolater.

p.s. kopi luwak was 'only' £26.50 ($40) for 50grams (1.76 ounces) at a place i found here that had it.

have we gone far enough off topic yet?

Jussi M. · 3rd March 2010, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

Have we gone far enough off topic yet?

From a surface level yes, but no

Rick · 3rd March 2010, 05:03 PM

Keurig .

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Jussi M. · 3rd March 2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Keurig .

So hate me ...

kronckew · 3rd March 2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Keurig .

So hate me ...

better than instant i guess....

A. G. Maisey · 3rd March 2010, 10:15 PM

Coffee is one of life's essentials.

I've had kopi luwak a number of times, in fact, one of my wife's relatives in Bali produce the stuff as a hobby, they've got some luwak (palm civet) in a big cage, they feed them the coffee beans and then produce the coffee.

As noted, it can be unbelievably expensive-- I believe that the wife's relos charge something like 7 million rupiah for it if they sell it--- but to my taste, its not really anything special. Its less bitter than some coffees, but if it was given to you blind, and you didn't know it had been through an animal's guts, you'd only think it was some different sort of coffee. Its different, but not better.

In Indonesia you can buy coffee in the supermarkets that is branded "Kopi Luwak", but its just a brand name, not the real thing.

I currently get my coffee sent to me by a small custom producer here in Sydney. I used to get a custom blend that was arabica, blue mountain, and peabody, and that was very good, but the blend they send me now is just as good, and a lot easier to get. Mostly I use a plunger, but occasionally I'll do stove top espresso. In the past I used to wait while the beans were roasted, then I'd take them home and grind them myself, but I've found that if I buy freshly ground coffee in a vacuum pack, and store it in the deep freeze section of the fridge, there is not any noticeable difference in taste.

3rd March 2010, 04:25 PM	#3
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,227	one of my favourite stores in al khobar, KSA was the coffee store, it had bags and bags of beans on display in a rather large room of all different beans and roasts, you'd tell them which beans, which roast and how much of each and what kind of coffee maker you used and they'd grind them right in front of you. i'd buy a kilo at a time of arabica in a half and half mix of 'italian' roast (darkest) and 'american' roast (kinda medium-dark). they did their own roasting. wonderful smelling store. wonderful coffee. much better than the pre-ground common muck you get in supermarkets. i occasionally buy a bag of 'specialty' coffee beans at the local costa coffee bar and grind them myself. beans and ground coffee get put in the freezer till used to keep the flavour in. i use one of the french press coffee things, never a percolater. p.s. kopi luwak was 'only' £26.50 ($40) for 50grams (1.76 ounces) at a place i found here that had it. have we gone far enough off topic yet?

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Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Keurig . So hate me ...

3rd March 2010, 10:15 PM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,019	Coffee is one of life's essentials. I've had kopi luwak a number of times, in fact, one of my wife's relatives in Bali produce the stuff as a hobby, they've got some luwak (palm civet) in a big cage, they feed them the coffee beans and then produce the coffee. As noted, it can be unbelievably expensive-- I believe that the wife's relos charge something like 7 million rupiah for it if they sell it--- but to my taste, its not really anything special. Its less bitter than some coffees, but if it was given to you blind, and you didn't know it had been through an animal's guts, you'd only think it was some different sort of coffee. Its different, but not better. In Indonesia you can buy coffee in the supermarkets that is branded "Kopi Luwak", but its just a brand name, not the real thing. I currently get my coffee sent to me by a small custom producer here in Sydney. I used to get a custom blend that was arabica, blue mountain, and peabody, and that was very good, but the blend they send me now is just as good, and a lot easier to get. Mostly I use a plunger, but occasionally I'll do stove top espresso. In the past I used to wait while the beans were roasted, then I'd take them home and grind them myself, but I've found that if I buy freshly ground coffee in a vacuum pack, and store it in the deep freeze section of the fridge, there is not any noticeable difference in taste.