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					Originally Posted by Rick
					
				 
				There was an awful lot of stock removal involved in making even the hand forged Moro blades. kris and barung.  
An industrious apprentice with a file can accomplish quite a lot . 
			
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 Clean up yes, but there is a HUGE difference in stock removal to shape and forge to shape and clean up. By the way files are more of a modern tool, in the old days they used a draw knife.