Ivory Silver Swassa Barong

mross · 15th February 2010, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Is your kampilan a status piece as well?

Yes, whalebone.

Battara · 15th February 2010, 05:37 PM

Yes, that makes sense. Nice. I had a whalebone one too (sold it for my ivory kampilan) and it did not have a laminated blade either.

The other problem with this barong is that it does not have much of a temper line either.

VANDOO · 16th February 2010, 02:28 AM

CONGRADULATIONS JOSE YOU HAVE COMPLETED THE MORO TRIFECTA. 1. IVORY KRIS 2. IVORY KAMPILLIAN 3. IVORY BARONG.

YOU LUCKY VARMIT.

ThePepperSkull · 16th February 2010, 02:53 AM

I love suasa (Second only to my affinity for silver); it's such a gorgeous metal to work with. That red hue is just beautiful.

I wonder, do you think the suasa part of the Punto was a later addition to this piece or was the inclusion of two metals on the hilt part of the original piece?

Battara · 16th February 2010, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePepperSkull

I wonder, do you think the suasa part of the Punto was a later addition to this piece or was the inclusion of two metals on the hilt part of the original piece?

I do believe that this was original to the piece. If it was added later, it was done early.

Thanks guys - trifecta - good for us here in Kentucky.

I'm pleased. I am researching and designing the scabbard as we speak.

mross · 19th February 2010, 04:48 PM

I have a theory on these status pieces. This is just a theory, with no way to prove it one way or another. I believe the status pieces that do not show laminations are made with imported steel. Imported steel does not have to be folded to make it suitable for use, it already is ready to be forged to shape. Here is my line of reasoning. Status pieces are by definition commissioned by someone of high status, which usually coincides with wealth. I find it hard to believe that you would spend all that money on the handle and then take no consideration of the blade. I do not know how these where used but if they where drawn and shown about people are going to see the blade. Plus if things do go bad and you need to use it, you don’t want a blade that will not perform. So the use of imported steel would be another indicator of status, as very few could afford it if they could get it.
Comments, opinions?

Battara · 22nd February 2010, 10:55 PM

Another possibility. Had not thought of that. May be similar to the unlaminated blades made by Chinese smiths in the Philippines.

David · 16th February 2010, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VANDOO

CONGRADULATIONS JOSE YOU HAVE COMPLETED THE MORO TRIFECTA. 1. IVORY KRIS 2. IVORY KAMPILLIAN 3. IVORY BARONG.

YOU LUCKY VARMIT.

Isn't there an Olympic Gold Medal for that?

15th February 2010, 05:37 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Yes, that makes sense. Nice. I had a whalebone one too (sold it for my ivory kampilan) and it did not have a laminated blade either. The other problem with this barong is that it does not have much of a temper line either.

16th February 2010, 02:28 AM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	CONGRADULATIONS JOSE YOU HAVE COMPLETED THE MORO TRIFECTA. 1. IVORY KRIS 2. IVORY KAMPILLIAN 3. IVORY BARONG. YOU LUCKY VARMIT.

16th February 2010, 02:53 AM	#4
ThePepperSkull Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 338	I love suasa (Second only to my affinity for silver); it's such a gorgeous metal to work with. That red hue is just beautiful. I wonder, do you think the suasa part of the Punto was a later addition to this piece or was the inclusion of two metals on the hilt part of the original piece?

19th February 2010, 04:48 PM	#6
mross Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 478	I have a theory on these status pieces. This is just a theory, with no way to prove it one way or another. I believe the status pieces that do not show laminations are made with imported steel. Imported steel does not have to be folded to make it suitable for use, it already is ready to be forged to shape. Here is my line of reasoning. Status pieces are by definition commissioned by someone of high status, which usually coincides with wealth. I find it hard to believe that you would spend all that money on the handle and then take no consideration of the blade. I do not know how these where used but if they where drawn and shown about people are going to see the blade. Plus if things do go bad and you need to use it, you don’t want a blade that will not perform. So the use of imported steel would be another indicator of status, as very few could afford it if they could get it. Comments, opinions?

22nd February 2010, 10:55 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Another possibility. Had not thought of that. May be similar to the unlaminated blades made by Chinese smiths in the Philippines.