The visible part of gonjo when Keris sheathed

sipakatuo · 6th February 2010, 11:23 AM

Hai Kai Wee

It is not Toli-Toli, it is called Passiosumange or Passingkerrusumange. There is a difference between Toli-Toli and Passingkerrusumange. Toli-Toli in Bugis means Ear Ring and you can commonly find this object attached in Wanua (Warangka) of Badik or sometimes in Tappi (Keris) too. Passingkerrusumange is the loop itself. It means 'Pengikat Semangat' or knot of spirit. You are correct, the loop here is new because the old one was damaged and so I have to replace it. Passingkerrusumange is also representing a status, in the old days before they wrap this loop around the Wanua, they must spell a mantra. The purpose is to give this loop a spirit (semangat). So whenever we travel along with this Tappi it can give us a 'sign' before bad things happen at home. This is just a belief and culture of the Buginesse in the old days.
There is actually other purpose of it and maybe next time...

Andi Irvan

BluErf · 7th February 2010, 12:57 AM

Hello Sipakatuo, thanks for sharing the information!

Wow, this is interesting indeed. Look forward to part II. Thanks!

sipakatuo · 7th February 2010, 03:43 AM

Woww No Worries Mate...

sirek · 8th February 2010, 06:29 PM

hello sipakatuo, very interesting.

is it maybe possible you can you show us how make a properlyToli Toli /Passiosumange/Passingkerrusumange?

are there certain rules, or prescribed dimensions ?

I think it gives the keris a better appearance.

David · 8th February 2010, 08:09 PM

Toli-Toli is a district in Sulawesi. Is this where the name for the sheath adornment comes from or is it because it resembles and earring as Sipakatuo suggests?

sipakatuo · 9th February 2010, 08:55 AM

Hi David and Sirek

It is not related to the district.
Toli simply earring, I might have to upload pictures of toli and passingkerru sumange later.

Sirek, just wait. I will be uploading it soon.

kerisbiz · 11th August 2016, 08:12 AM

In my opinion, the correct position is singkerrusumange like this picture. You can see the position of the royal kris Bugis and Makassar all put in that position. Because in Bugis culture there is a philosophy of the head, torso, and legs in the design of traditional houses as well as weapons.

6th February 2010, 11:23 AM	#1
sipakatuo Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 59	Hai Kai Wee It is not Toli-Toli, it is called Passiosumange or Passingkerrusumange. There is a difference between Toli-Toli and Passingkerrusumange. Toli-Toli in Bugis means Ear Ring and you can commonly find this object attached in Wanua (Warangka) of Badik or sometimes in Tappi (Keris) too. Passingkerrusumange is the loop itself. It means 'Pengikat Semangat' or knot of spirit. You are correct, the loop here is new because the old one was damaged and so I have to replace it. Passingkerrusumange is also representing a status, in the old days before they wrap this loop around the Wanua, they must spell a mantra. The purpose is to give this loop a spirit (semangat). So whenever we travel along with this Tappi it can give us a 'sign' before bad things happen at home. This is just a belief and culture of the Buginesse in the old days. There is actually other purpose of it and maybe next time... Andi Irvan

7th February 2010, 12:57 AM	#2
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hello Sipakatuo, thanks for sharing the information! Wow, this is interesting indeed. Look forward to part II. Thanks!

7th February 2010, 03:43 AM	#3
sipakatuo Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 59	Woww No Worries Mate...

8th February 2010, 06:29 PM	#4
sirek Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 171	hello sipakatuo, very interesting. is it maybe possible you can you show us how make a properlyToli Toli /Passiosumange/Passingkerrusumange? are there certain rules, or prescribed dimensions ? I think it gives the keris a better appearance.

8th February 2010, 08:09 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,227	Toli-Toli is a district in Sulawesi. Is this where the name for the sheath adornment comes from or is it because it resembles and earring as Sipakatuo suggests?

9th February 2010, 08:55 AM	#6
sipakatuo Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 59	Hi David and Sirek It is not related to the district. Toli simply earring, I might have to upload pictures of toli and passingkerru sumange later. Sirek, just wait. I will be uploading it soon.

11th August 2016, 08:12 AM	#7
kerisbiz Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 15	In my opinion, the correct position is singkerrusumange like this picture. You can see the position of the royal kris Bugis and Makassar all put in that position. Because in Bugis culture there is a philosophy of the head, torso, and legs in the design of traditional houses as well as weapons.